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lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Oct 5, 2012
And I've just realised I've jumped into your conversation with peanut
That serves me right for being curious about The Whispering Dog
I shall unsub now, sorry
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Peanut Posted Oct 5, 2012
mentor indeed, I have been here for 11 years and still don't my way around! I do though know where to run too for help
Vegi is right we need to hear from new researchers so I am listening and following up albeit slowly
KB mentioned in their jorunal about looking at the peer review page from a newbies eyes and it is confusing and here we have it from a newbies mouth so that needs looking at
I wouldn't say is marginalised at all although admittedly other areas of h2g2 are quiet. This is because it is quiet around here
I am also wondering what happened to The Showcase which was supposed to feature the best of the guide and underguide and bring the two closer together. I admit here and now that I don't go to the front page since the ads but it does seem that only approved entries are featured on the front page
Lil do you know if this the is the case, or who would know (see that is me running for help )
and
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Peanut Posted Oct 5, 2012
oops, a sim post there,that will teach me to post and
Lil please come back I'll after her later but if anyone sees her first will you please pass the message on
tell her there is Chardonnay
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lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Oct 5, 2012
There is Chardonnay?? *hic*
I left to give you a bit of privacy, not that it's really possible in hootoo
I don't know what happened with the Showcase, Peanut. It might have been dropped while the Pliny Front Page was being set up and stabilised. You could ask Lanzababy about it
lil xx
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vegiman:-) Posted Oct 5, 2012
Yes, I would like to know what she thought of the whispering
's after her
or did she go
that way.
AE, I am really sorry for all the mix ups earlier - Put it down to be being tired and incoherent. It happens from time to time Still getting over my hospital procedure.
Make a note to self (Do not post late at night)
all the best
vegi
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vegiman:-) Posted Oct 5, 2012
sends in TW to distract Lil from guarding her
Big tray of freshly made olates - blowing the wonderful aroma over Lil's way
Has glass at the ready
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AE Hill, Mabin-OGion Character of inauspicious repute Posted Oct 5, 2012
@vegi
Wow
This thread went bonkers
T’is nice to see lil ‘round, she has been so nice to me.
But as to misunderstandings… I take no offence. It is nice to be a friend of vegi.
I do think the incident highlights how communications can go wrong on a blog.
As I have said elsewhere, the emoticons help.
Perhaps blogging is a new language paradigm.
Blogging is short and simple notes that run the risk of being misunderstood.
Then add to that, expressions of humor balled up with cultural diversity and the risk goes much higher.
I for one, am not too surprised I ran into misunderstandings.
What I was perplexed about was how much effort it took to resolve the problems.
Point in fact, some of the misunderstandings in my peer review did not get resolved.
With well meaning effort on my part, and much effort on their part, mundane things went unresolved. Why? In very rare cases I expect that people will just have to agree to disagree.
To change my tack, I value intuition in ways most would not appreciate.
Anecdotically, my Mother was very intuitive, my Father warned me that she was ALWAYS right, even if for the wrong reasons.
The point is that it seems I still argue with illogic and fail to see the value being offered.
When a reviewer knows what is right, but cannot explain why they are right; they will often defend their review point with illogic [and I argue with that]. That is a very prominent example of intuition. Language is a very intuitive process [especially for native speakers].
I, on the other hand, am here to learn to write… better.
In order to unlearn anything and learn a counter lesson, my mind filters strongly against illogic. If a reviewer cannot correct the illogic, and I do not see what is right, we are at an impasse.
To change back my tack, the Peer Review needs to be understood as a review by peers, not ex-perts. As such, NO advice is better than another, by definition of the word peer. Without leadership, what can result is “design by committee.” I therefore suggest that the author be given more weight in the review process. Let me quickly add, this may be the case, but it is not clear.
Above Peer Review is the editorial process. So an Editor has more weight than an Author. If Approved Entries are to be of the encyclopedic ilk, the Editor can take responsibility for that result. If the Approved Entries need to include a broader range, that too is the purview of an Editor. But the intuits of a peer should not control such matters.
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vegiman:-) Posted Oct 5, 2012
I and a few other researchers were the instigators of Peer Review in the early days of h2g2.
I ran the first few before it was taken over by the h2g2 team at the time.
CRITIQUE FUN RUN A161155
There you will see original the concept, few of the links to pages being reviewed may not work but in the main they do.
As you point out - There are issues which need to be sorted in todays Peer Review.
I think I will have to sort out a Home page for this soon - so discussions are not hidden away out of view.
I did ask Pastey to give me access to an old stomping ground called Area 42 which was to be a history of h2g2 but something I started when RL intervened and it did not get off the ground.
Pastey has been too busy to sort this as the volunteer tech guy for the site, he has a lot on.
You will note that I post in short paragraphs. This is intentional, I know, not strictly correct. As a printer in the past, knowing the value of white space and I rarely get a TLDR or is it TLNR
I find Long Paragraphs in posts are not read but a long post with short paragraphs are.
Off now - catcha, (Cockney for see you soon), in the morning.
all the best
vegi
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vegiman:-) Posted Oct 6, 2012
Rushes TW to the vets for a stomach pump before chocolate sends him into a fit.
On return, cleans cyber poop up off the carpet
Lil, didn't you know too much is poison to a dog.
There's a good boy, what did the naughty lady do to you.
hears a *hic* from across the room
Luckily the vet says it's all cos a cyberdogs stomach is different. that was a close one.
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Yes AE the thread is going mad again
vegi
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lil ~ Auntie Giggles with added login ~ returned Posted Oct 6, 2012
Hehehehe... The was covered in canine drops
Poor TW did that nasty vegiman make you lose your treats?
*sits vegi on the cold naughty step, without a cushion*
Yep, AE.. We are all a little crazy in here
lil xx
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Peanut Posted Oct 19, 2012
Vegi are you still sitting there without a cushion?
*looks around, coast looks clear, sneaks a cushion to Vegi*
Is all well Vegi? I haven't been seeing you about
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vegiman:-) Posted Oct 19, 2012
Thanks for the cushion Peanut
Just taking a rest bite, feel more comfy now - Have a new member of the family and she has been taking a lot of my attention of late.
http://dog-whisperer.highlighted.co.uk/img/sadie_logo.gif
Resting my brain. Be back soon.
Still ing
vegi
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