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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Started conversation Dec 13, 2012
Hiya Florida Sailor
I'm subbing both articles A87779425 Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson - The Early Years and A87778967 Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson - The Years of Fame and Glory - you'll need to subscribe to both
First glance, you have Albemarle then "Nelson was again in the open sea in the Almermarle", is that the same ship or a different ship?
Another query: <> then later you call her "Fannie", which is correct?
Thanks,
GB
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Dec 14, 2012
Hi GB
>First glance, you have Albemarle then "Nelson was again in the open sea in the Almermarle", is that the same ship or a different ship?
It is the same ship, I intended to express that he had been freed from his service in the Baltic, and was once again in the open world.
>Another query: <> then later you call her "Fannie", which is correct?
Fanny appears to be correct. My sources generally refer to her as "Lady Nelson" after he had been given the title, but I chose to use her given name to avoid confusion with Lady Hamilton. It is easy to do and an important part of the story.
Thanks (we need a "thanks" smiley)
FS
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 14, 2012
We do, you do ta in pointy brackets =
Sorry to be so thick but I still don't know whether the ship should be called Albemarle or Almermarle.
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Dec 14, 2012
>Sorry to be so thick but I still don't know whether the ship should be called Albemarle or Almermarle
I didn't catch the misspelling
The answer is - Albemarle.
http://www.admiralnelson.org/hms_albemarle.htm
FS
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Dec 15, 2012
Aye, please add the missing "i"
I use the word "cruise" here to indicate that, rather than a hurried passage he was also looking for any enemy ships on the way.
FS
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 17, 2012
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not sure what that means, do you mean: 'Horatio's status in the Navy had fluctuated between Captain's Steward, an enlisted position, a boy in training to become an officer and coxswain, and Midshipman, an enlisted man in charge of one of the ship's boats.'
or something else?
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 17, 2012
<> I'm not sure "Captain Maurice" is correct. Do you mean "Uncle Maurice" or "Captain Suckling"?
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 17, 2012
<> at that time Sir William Hamilton was a British Ambassador, he could be described as a diplomat. I've changed "Minister" to "Ambassador" (twice).
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Dec 18, 2012
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not sure what that means, do you mean: 'Horatio's status in the Navy had fluctuated between Captain's Steward, an enlisted position, a boy in training to become an officer and coxswain, and Midshipman, an enlisted man in charge of one of the ship's boats.'
or something else?<<
Captain's steward in an enlisted position who acts as the captain's servant.
A midshipman is a boy in training to become an officer.
The coxswain is an enlisted position in charge of one of the ship's boats.
perhaps
Horatio held many position during his yearly time in the navy. and follow with separate sentences?
<> I'm not sure "Captain Maurice" is correct. Do you mean "Uncle Maurice" or "Captain Suckling"?
Uncle Maurice and Captain Suckling are the same person. I have used the familiar 'Uncle' rather than the formal 'Captain' as most of his early actions seem to be more as a relative than a superior officer. The reason I switched to Captain Maurice, was in hopes of connecting the two sides of the same man as Horatio's career grew more serious.
<> at that time Sir William Hamilton was a British Ambassador, he could be described as a diplomat. I've changed "Minister" to "Ambassador" (twice).<<
My source documents use the term "Minister" and I just followed their lead. I am not sure we need to get involved in diplomatic terminology of the past, Ambassador works just fine for me
Thanks again
FS
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 18, 2012
No need to apologise! This is what a sub-ed is for
What I wanted to clear up is, I know Uncle Maurice and Captain Suckling are the same person, but it's not correct to call him "Captain Maurice" is it? His title would be Captain Suckling. Can you confirm this?
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Dec 19, 2012
>>What I wanted to clear up is, I know Uncle Maurice and Captain Suckling are the same person, but it's not correct to call him "Captain Maurice" is it? His title would be Captain Suckling. Can you confirm this?
Yes, his proper title would be either Captain Suckling or Captain Maurice Suckling (I can think of many officers who always used their given and even middle names such as Oliver Hazard Perry or John Paul Jones, this is especially true in families who have several members, or generations in naval service.) Privately a close friend or relative might well use the term 'Captain Maurice' although it might a bit irreverent. My purpose in using it was to remind the reader that this was his mentor and not some distant authority figure. It depends on how correct your definition of 'correct' is
I will respect your decision.
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FS
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Dec 20, 2012
That's fair.
I did notice that there is still one 'Captain Maurice' in the last sentence of the first paragraph of 'Return to the Navy'. I don't mind, but I thought you might want to know.
FS
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 20, 2012
thanks, I've fixed that
OK I have now finished subbing Part One, if you'd like to read it through and OK the changes I have made, I'll get on with subbing Part Two
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Dec 21, 2012
Did a full read through, all looks good, except I did find one awkward sentence;
At this time Nelson learned of the death of his uncle Captain Maurice Suckling, and he surely thought himself alone, without the influence in high places that had advanced his career to this stage. It would be up to his own skill and efforts to further advance his career.
might be better as;
At this time Nelson learned of the death of his uncle, Captain Maurice Suckling. He surely thought himself alone, without the influence in high places that had advanced his career to this stage. It would be up to his own skill and efforts to further advance his career.
Added comma after uncle and full stop after Suckling.
F S
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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor Posted Dec 28, 2012
A87778967
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everyone defending?
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I've re-organised this to read:
Nelson ordered his ships to sail in a line, turn and anchor between each pair of French ships, with vessels advancing to the next pair until each French ship had a British ship firing at her from both ends.
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