h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

You appear to have taken your ball home, Egeist. I notice that you appear to have taken comments on your entries as comments about you, which is a pity. I

Do you intend working further on either of the entries:

A1113193 - A, or

A1109170 - What is Christian Theology?

If not, then it would be good idea to remove them from Peer Review.

You would be welcome to pop round to my place for and ? I may not agree with your views, however I will always listen. As the saying goes - 'Seek first to understand, then to be understood'. How about it?

Still here....
I’m quite busy e-mailing and otherwise contacting anybody found in “Search, Theology Degrees” about H2G2/BBCi.

The article was taken off in order to prevent you peddling your views as mine. I am sending the article to them with full contact details – so they can conduct a Peer Review by my real Peers.

50/50 chance that you have stopped reading, but that’s ok I’ll continue…

I’m quite busy e-mailing and otherwise contacting anybody found in “Search, Christian Theology Degrees” &c, about H2G2/BBCi.

I am sending the article to them with full contact details – so they can conduct a Peer Review by my real Peers.

Note: the body of the text would have been modified (but not the title) to reflect a balanced academically orthodox view if any of the H2G2 could formulate a true review. Sadly, even the one (Uncle Heavy) who corresponded with any authority(? taken on trust), was not very consistent. I think that I stopped away from Christian inter-denominational banter and was quite neutral about “other faiths” within the article. However the so called Peer Review was conducted by others in an un-academic “sob sob I’m so upset - you exclude me because I do not read correctly what you write and peddle my own of-the-wall stuff” way. That’s why I did quite a lot of “lol” stuff with embedded points. I had already put in the OED stuff (in MY words) but, not pasted it in. This is the (annotated) iteration I still have. The title is "What is Theology?"...

Oxford and Theology (Oh Bishop!) is just too easy a target… even for me!

Oh yes – if an Institution teaches (Christian) Theology and has courses such as “ Buddhism”, it may well, in context, be for a “Dogmatics” section – in order to blow holes in the “other theology”, NOT to have a “Group Hug” session. Sob, sob. Honestly. “Pull…bang!” Shot that down then?

Watch that space... but do not hold your breath...

Notes

Dogmatics is intended primarily, not for those who are outside, but for those who are inside the Christian fold.

Apologetics is intended primarily, for those who are inside, to expound to those who are outside the Christian fold.

Readers are warned to take no statement for granted, but to check it for themselves. No belief is really ours until we have made it our own (John IV. 42).

Traditional Anglicans have no doctrines peculiar to them, but do have a standpoint and an emphasis of their own, which may be given here without further qualification or apology.

The author wishes to withdraw anything which is contrary to the teaching of the Catholic Church as it is interpreted by Traditional Anglicans.

Are you saying I'm not your peer? Fine by me. Your opinions about me are no concern of mine.

It did strike me that you got rather hot under the collar, though, and I was wondering what all that was about.

You think I want to foist my opinions on you? No I don't! I have a lively objection to people forcing their opinions down my throat. It's highly disrespectful and I certainly wouldn't do it to anyone else.

If you have fixed opinions and cannot take what is meant as constructive comments, then maybe you are right - Peer Review is not for you. You may be happier in other parts of the guide.

To go back to my original question, what is your intention with your entries in Peer Review? Will you be working on them, or do you intend to remove them from Peer Review?

From Oxford Univerity "Theology at Oxford site (direct paste):

Those who wish to study Theology for a First Degree at Oxford may do so in one of three ways: The first two ways lead to a BA degree with Honours, and are designed for students who are intending to enter a wide variety of future careers: these courses are the Honour School of Theology and the Honour School of Philosophy and Theology. The third way, the Bachelor of Theology degree, is a professional qualification designed mainly for ordinands preparing for Christian ministry.

P.S.
The Faculty is Theology, not Christian Theology

Hi Egeist,

Just because it's written doesn't necessarily make it true! You may wish to deny that there is any other true way than the Christian way. Again, it doesn't make it true.

There was a master at one of the major universities a few hundred years ago (I forget who, but it is easily verifiable) who said that if a piece of knowledge existed and he didn't know it, then it wasn't true.

I think there's a reasonable consensus of opinion that would hold that Theology is not uniquely Christian. It doesn't worry me overmuch. Why does it worry you?

The Title and subject was "What is Theology?"
Taken on trust that anyone is my Peer since you could say that you are a 12 year old Agnostic or Professor of Theology at Oxford - how could I tell? But if you demonstrated a factual error in the subject of the article I would take it on merit. Being a Prof. would add weight... if you could prove it. Real Peers can prove who they are. This is not the case here.
I would wish the article, to stand on its own.

Final Honour School of Theology (direct paste):
The course has a compulsory core of biblical and doctrinal subjects, and students are required to gain a thorough knowledge of the historical and textual basis of the Christian faith, as well as studying its subsequent interpretation down to the present day. For this purpose it is essential that every student should have a sufficient knowledge of either New Testament Greek or Biblical Hebrew to be able to grasp points of interpretation which depend on linguistic factors. At the same time the wide range of options provided within the three tracks allows students to work more intensively in other fields of biblical, historical or doctrinal studies, or instead to branch out and study non-Christian traditions. The whole course is bound together in a required paper (Doctrine and Interpretation: see section A, paper 6) in which all the various disciplines are brought to bear upon the contemporary interpretation of the Christian faith.

Re: what I said earlier about "other religions" and Theology. to quote the above: "The whole course is bound together in a required paper (Doctrine and Interpretation:...) in which all the various disciplines are brought to bear upon the contemporary interpretation of the Christian faith."

Put another way this is what I said. They mean "blow holes in the others at the end!". Granted that in time this may soften to the point of group hugging... but not quite yet.

>>I think there's a reasonable consensus of opinion that would hold that Theology is not uniquely Christian. It doesn't worry me overmuch. Why does it worry you?

I provided the article and I have supported it by some evidence as well.
What reaonable consensus?
By your own words just because You think it...
The article itself stated that Theology is Metaphysics with more givens.

I do not of know any "Theology" course starting with *Insert Religion and then including Christianity in the other religions section. Do you?

*put any religion you want here as evidence.

In Peer Review, everyone is considered an equal, whether we agree with their views or not. Most people treat others with respect. Some, unfortunately, see questioning their views as holding them in disrespect. How do you react to people who question your views?

I notice that you have side-stepped my earlier question about why you appear to have got hot under the collar?

NB: My mum is a Christian Scientist and is entirely unable to reason about her beliefs. She resorts to quoting its founder Mary Baker Eddy. I used to find it exasperating as a child and young adult.

Notice you posted three to my one here.

OK, *your* course was 'Theology'. Still not sure why it's such a big deal if you put the word 'Christian' in front of it, which does make it clearer to readers what it is that they're about to read.

The S U B J E C T of the article was Theology.
I did not write an article about My Course.
If the subject was "What is Anthropology" would I need to alter it to "What is Black Anthropology" because I studied it a Black College?
I get hot under the coller about my heratage as well. (Had me down as a W.A.S.P?)

correction heritage

correction heritage

Non sequitur. If you want people to know what the subject of the entry is, you need to be precise. Not everyone on h2g2 is from the Christian heritage and in common usage, theology could include the study of other religions.

What are you afraid of/

Theology is an accademic subject
The article was about the accademic subject called Theology
I studied Theology
What has common usage got to do with it?
I never said my heritage was Christian. You did.
You side-stepped my question... and Anthroplogy/Theology is a real Joint Honours Degree course at a "Black" College with a "Black"(Greek)Fraternity.
Note "Black" is not inserted the (US)College name, but is in the Prospectus.
Many Brothers-in-Christ fought for the right to go to College. Are you offended by this? What would you call them in common usage?
Get the "hot under th coller" crack as being offensive yet?

I inferred that you were Christian from the thread to the original entry. Was I wrong?

There's nothing wrong with your course simply being entitled 'Theology'. Where did I say I did?

I'm trying to be helpful. I gave you advice, which you were entitle to accept or refuse. People submitting to Peer Review generally listen to advice. They are not bound to take it. The Editors take into account what has been said in the threads. Calling an entry which is about Theology which only talks about the Christian faith would seem to discount other religions. I still can't see what the big deal is for you.

Do you believe that other traditions are wrong and are not entitled to the term theology?

Your language leads me to believe you are upset. Am I wrong?

You can infer anything you like….
I am not being sexist above – but just in case, I must point out that Sisters-in-Christ also fought – and women at the college belong to a Sorority. The women joined the already established College, in the particular case I have in mind.

What I believe about Theology is not the point. Theology is… as an academic subject. As a subject it is taught in a certain way and this may be right or wrong. Go and tell them. I could have written a much longer article citing every course curriculum I could find, but I still think it would not get past you.

Comparative Religion is a different academic subject.

Citing any course called “Christian Theology” is not the point for the reasons stated in the article – since it could just as easily be called simply “Theology” following reasoning in the article – even if course-parts in “other religions” form a part of the total.

I asked you to give any example of a similar course at any Institution that uses the term “Theology” to mean (mainly) non-Christian religion as a subject. Answer that. Try proving your point yourself. Then submit your findings to your Peer Review via your own article.

I did not write the Bible. Can you find a Bible with CHRISTIAN BIBLE on the front? (HOLY BIBLE… yes). Inside the Bible Jesus says that there is NO way other than through Him. Can you find the quotation? I could quote the passage in the book called the Bible even if I was an atheist and the Bible was 1st addition fiction with “Jesus” as a fictional character. I witness that Jesus is GOD and died on the cross for us all – as is understood by Traditional Anglicans.

Do not try to trick me. Theology is Theology.
You can infer anything you like…

If you can find any part of the article then delete it. It is gone I think (from here).
"If your eye offends you pluck it out".
Get your technical types to take out the Egeist login as well, as I cannot find a way to unsubscribe totaly.

Nothing to see here...
Bye Bye...

Found this surfing...
Had to login to have my say
Why is this link called Childline?
Good stuff this though...
Wish I could have read the article, what is theology?
Think this Egeist wins on points
ding ding seconds away!
hope more to come!

links off here dont work now?
All gon?