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Why are you alive?

Post 1

Agnostic Primist (2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71)

Well, RDO would probably give you an explanation that starts near a hydrothermal vent over 4 gigayears ago.

However, I predict that you meant that as a philosophical question, so my answer would be: "So that you can find some purpose that will alow you to fight the conspiracy and to follow that purpose.".


Why, are you alive?

Post 2

Mal

I mean it in every possible sense of it. However at the time I meant it in a very depressed and pointlessly lonely sort of way. But I was hoping I'd get a philosophical answer, and it's nice to see that you're back. Did you sort out your differences?
I wasn't MADE so I could fight the Conspiracy, presumably, because I don't believe in predestination, and the Conspiracy are just as much to be worked for as worked against.


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Post 3

Agnostic Primist (2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71)

"I wasn't MADE so I could fight the Conspiracy, presumably, because I don't believe in predestination, and the Conspiracy are just as much to be worked for as worked against."

I agree you weren;t made for that reason, since I don't believe you were made. I can't see any reason to support the Conspiracy--my opinion is that the only reasonable responce to it is to fight it, but I maybe wrong. Really, it's everyone's individual choice to decide why they exist in a philosophical sence. (I think that sentence is gramatically wrong, but I don't know how.)


Why? Are you alive?

Post 4

Mal

I agree, it seems to me that the only reasonable response to discovering a conspiracy is to fight it, but who knows? Some people might not see it that way, and they have a choice, therefore I have a choice, too, therefore I was not made to do it.


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Post 5

Agnostic Primist (2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71)

I agree that you have a choice and that you are not made to fight the Conspiracy. Since my meaning was unclear, I hearby retract my first posting on this thread, may it be ignored forevermore.


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Post 6

R. Daneel Olivaw -- (User 201118) (Member FFFF, ARS, and DOS) ( -O- )

I think I have to support AP's basic idea here, which I think I understand better than he does.

Most people would not and do not fight the Conspiracy in any way.

However, there are some people, who even if they don't commit themselves to fight all parts of it constantly, as AP has, fight part of it without even trying.

Surely you recognize that people's personalities lead them to act certain ways. Some people have personality traits that lead them into conflict with the Conspiracy--they fight it without meaning to. I have some of those traits and many of the people I like or admire do; that's probably why AP developed as a co-inhabitant of this body.

AP seems to think, and I do too, that you have personality traits that virtually insure that you will end up fighting against parts of the Conspiracy. People who think independantly and don't just accept whatever dogma is fed to them are likely to come into conflict with what AP calls the "social talon" of the Conspiracy; I think you fit into that group.

Also, on one of the threads on AP's user page, you noted that you recognized much of what he calls the Conspiracy. People who recognize the Conspiracy are generally people who are acting against it--sheep who follow the conspiracy generally don't realize that they are doing so or that it exists.

Open skies.


Why? Are you alive?

Post 7

Mal

I'll take all of that as a compliment. Thanks!
You can't just assume that anyone who sees the conspiracy will fight it, you know. Although I suspect that thus far it's held true.
Anyway... I'm feeling rather blind today, but how does it answer the original question?


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Post 8

Agnostic Primist (2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71)

I think that the fact that you recognize it means that you probably have already started to fight it; although you are right, I can't be 100% sure.

"Anyway... I'm feeling rather blind today, but how does it answer the original question?"

I don't know.


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Post 9

Mal

Oh, sorry, didn't notice this thread hiding behind the rest of my stuff.
I'm not really sure what to say now.


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