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The Magster

A friendly warning Doug, if you continue to TROLL I shall make a complaint. The house rules are copied and pasted below for your delectation. I suggest you read them, particularly the bit about TROLLING. If you continue to add nasty personal comments about me to threads that I particpate on, I shall complain and I shall continue to complain until something is done about it.

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A message for Doug

Post 2

U208660

A message to Magster-thats typical of you can dish it out but you cant take it!!!


A message for Doug

Post 3

The Magster

Doug, I asked nicely and politely and even copied and pasted the rules for you so that there could be no doubt in your mind that what you do is TROLL. Yet within seconds you TROLL the "Is this" thread again and make yet more personal comments about me.

This is the last time I ask nicely. Please Doug leave it alone and desist with the nasty, spiteful comments that you make about me (and others) and stop the TROLLING. Thank you.


A message for Doug

Post 4

U208660

so you think thing its all oneway when you accused me of going on the the childrens boards and ranting about the BNP..even now i have been accused of going on the kids boards and chatting kids the kids up.so if you and your so called friends cease then i will ok.so stop trying to be the hurt party here and try to be more civilised to other board users.Gawd your all like kids..all running to prod a mod you want to all get a life.your on the boards morn-till night!!!!


A message for Doug

Post 5

The Magster

Right Doug, here is the deal from members of the "Is this thread". Those of us on the "is this" thread and our own threads too, will never ever refer to you either directly or indirectly again on h2g2, there will be no "jokes" etc etc, I will not report you to h2g2 or anyone else, if you promise to stop trolling the "Is this" thread and any others that we all belong to. By stopping I mean you do not post on the threads at all. Let's face it, you rarely get a rise and your nasty comments and innuendo are ignored for the most part. What say you? This is a polite request to ask you to stop spoiling, by your constant trolling, the enjoyment of others, following on from my other polite requests.


A message for Doug

Post 6

U208660

I'msorry to hear that Magster darlin'-but Bop seems to enjoy it..in fact she thought it was a good laff..but who are you to tell me where to go and what to do...you seem a bit self rightous.who as given you the right to tell other people what to do i'm a licence payer and always have been..so please dont act like the director of the BBC and try to tell licence payers what to do..also i think you have had a sense of humour bypass..your trying to be the mother hen trying to keep your chicks in order.and to be frank think you have a bldy cheek laying down the law and ordering people about first of all i cant give my political views because they do suit you and you say you teaching the Neo nazism to kids for god sake woman what does please you!!


A message for Doug

Post 7

The Magster

Doug, it is a pity that you could not accept this offer (not just from me by the way although I volunteered to write it) in the spirit that is was intended. I was offering a truce but it is clear that you are not interested. I am not trying to tell you what to do, I am merely trying to get you to stop trolling in the nicest possible way. It does not surprise me that you use one, and the only one, response that you ever had as justification for your behaviour. When you sign up to h2g2 you agree to the house rules. The house rules say no trolling allowed. You troll. I am not going to argue with you Doug because it is obvious that you are not prepared to even consider the opinions of others (again not just me here, I am merely a mouthpiece) and so there is little point.

I am sorry that you feel this way and that you leave us with no other options.


A message for Doug

Post 8

U208660

well i wonder what you thought you were doing when you called me a nazi andf even worse than that you said i was corrupting children with my neo nazi views it's funny how you prod a mod when the same thing happens to you, you've got double standards.


A message for Doug

Post 9

The Magster

Doug, I do not recall calling you a nazi. If you believe that I have then kindly produce the evidence. This does however beg the question as to why you find the term offensive when you have openly bragged (if that is the right term in this situation) on AF about bnp membership and beating up people who were not white (and yes, I have the evidence before you ask.)

I will be totally up front about this Doug, when I posted "I don't know if.." I did complain about your activities on the AF board to the mods and I did indeed take it further than that. You were never named in my complaint or in the other action I took. It was all been very generalised and I ask you to take my word for that because it is true.

I used to joke and josh with you on AF until your posts took on the sinister aspects that have been mentioned previously and until you turned what can only be described as abusive on the "Is this" thread on h2g2.

Like I said the offer that was made was not just from me and was made in good faith and yet you persist in trolling.

Yes, I am going to draw you activities to the attention of others and let them make their own judgement. If I am wrong and they feel there is no trolling going on and no offensiveness then fair enough, we will accept the situation. If they decide in the opposite way I hope that you can be as accepting.


A message for Doug

Post 10

U208660

yes i have the proof in fact i told you i have a print out of your emails...and as for your proof of me bragging about beating up none whites thats you fantasising again i'm sure the BBC would have done something about it if i had been bragging about doing such a thing,a thing i have never done .could you please print out this so called proof i would be pleased to see it..by what i see of your posts you do a lot of fantasising so it does not come as a shock for me to think you would stoop so low as to make false statements like that.also i have a print out of all the post that have been saying that i have been on the teen boards talking to children the BBC will have proof that i have never posted on the teen boards..thats just another of your friends wierd imagination so before you start causing trouble which i must say your an expert at please be warned i have proof..but like i say if you have proof that i have said in my posts on the AF board that i have raised my hand to a none white by all means give it to the BBC.If you you cannot show this so called proof you have made a very bad mistake because you have said openly on this board that you know i thrashed a none white.I wish to point out to the BBC to take note of your last post in case i take legal action against you.


regards

Douglas Deep


A message for Doug

Post 11

The Magster

I give up......only because you do not listen. Good bye Doug


A message for Doug

Post 12

U208660

thank you Magster-I still wish to see the proof you have about me saying that i hit a none white though..it was a very bad statement to make as you know thousands of people can see these posts and that post you sent was downright libelous so please send the proof if not to me to the BBC it was a very serious accusation to make and i want to see the proof..also the proof that your friends have that i have been on the teen boards that was a very..very serious accusation to make like i say thousands of people look at these posts, and the posts you and your friends sent in about me are down right lies and made through your morbid imaginations!!!!


A message for Doug

Post 13

The Magster

My last word on the subject Doug, because as I said, you do not listen but continue to make wild accusations about things I am supposed to have said when I have made things quite plain and have put it all out in the open, all accusations are untrue. You don't listen and are not prepared to do so.

Finally, Goodbye Doug, Farewell, Adieu and all that. There will be no response to anything that you post. It is really quite liberating smiley - smiley Goodbye....just in case you are not listening again...G O O D B Y E


A message for Doug

Post 14

U208660

I'm still waiting for the proof that i said i beat up none whites...if you make accusations like that you must stick by what you said.Like i said thousands of people read these posts,you cant just make a statement like that about anyone then dodge away.i have a print out of your latest post about me saying i thrashed a none white and i will be showing to the BNP solicitor.


A message for Doug

Post 15

Peedo Dug

Warning to all people exchanging e-mail with Doug Deep
This person is extremely dangerous. Doug will exchange mail with you and after sucking you in to gain your respect and trust the antics will start.
I therefore intend to tell people what he is really like. If just one person takes my advice and keeps clear of him it will be worth it. People need to know what a dangerous and vile person he really is. To do this they only need to research his past posts.


BE ADVISED KEEP WELL CLEAR OF THIS EVIL PERSON!!!!!!!


A message for Doug

Post 16

U208660

Hi Peedo baby-where you been babe i've missed you but sorry i cant stop me owld mate i'm going to a BNP meeting but i promise i will tell you about it 2morrow see yeh later honey bye babessmiley - chick


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