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pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | Posted Nov 14, 2002
Bob,
Justin has own version of the bible and God. he is very privilaged!
everyone else has pagan God(s).
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BobTheFarmer Posted Nov 14, 2002
Do you think he has scribbled out all the contradictory phrases with biro?
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pheloxi | is it time to wear a hat? | Posted Nov 14, 2002
and made himself diciple, jugde and juror
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Researcher 195767 Posted Nov 14, 2002
Bob,
Sorry, I have been known to make mistakes, I am a human being you know!
I concede that there are many APPARENT contradictions in the Scripture, but, to those who are restored to God in Christ it is obvious that they are not contradictions at all.
Interpretation; yes, of course. You will find that the vast majority of professing Christians, who are Christians at their own charges, by their own will, by their own definition, only have intellect to understand the things of God with. God speaks of them as 'twisting the Word to their own destruction'. Those in this category, and there are many, many, in it, there are umpteen possible interpretations.
Then there are the genuinely saved; those who know the Lord Jesus, have heard Him speak to them, and have spiritual revelation from Him. Within this category you will find young Christians who think they know it all, just as children think they know better than their parents; and you will find those who are older in the Lord, but have backslidden, or have refused God's leading in some way, and have been hardened/blinded, or whatever. They would all see some things differently. Then there are the pure men of God, of which there are very few, and I have only ever met one or two, (doesn't include me, I have only been saved 17 years, and am still growing in God), and they have another perspective.
So, yes, there are differences of interpretation.
Justin
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BobTheFarmer Posted Nov 14, 2002
So how can you know that your interpretation is the correct one?
And you claim that God has spoken to you. So where is the fairness of a God who speaks to some to allow them to be 'saved' and not others?
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Researcher 195767 Posted Nov 14, 2002
Bob,
Various ways is the answer to that, and I could not go into that here, such things are known to the Lord's people and are not for the ears of those who are not.
As for 'fairness'; "The Earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof; the world and they that dwell therein."
Almighty God is Maker, Owner, and Sustainer, of Heaven and Earth. He can quite rightly do with His own as He wishes. You and I, as mere creations of His, cannot argue with Him who made us. That is impertinence in extremis.
Justin
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BobTheFarmer Posted Nov 14, 2002
So does God rule hell too?
Surely he must if he is the God you describe.
And if he doesnt, how strong is Satan and what happens if he doesnt want the whole population of the world apart from you and your small church in his home?
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Researcher 195767 Posted Nov 14, 2002
Bob,
Sure, God is ruler of Hell too. In the end, come Judgement Day, death and Hell will be cast into the lake of fire.
Satan does not rule anything. Jesus Christ is Lord, though Satan is allowed, for this season in God's dealings with man, to go so far in certain circumstances. He cannot do anything but with the leave of the Lord Jesus. Satan does not rule Hell, neither is he there. Satan is a defeated foe. He was beaten at Calvary.
Justin
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R. Daneel Olivaw -- (User 201118) (Member FFFF, ARS, and DOS) ( -O- ) Posted Apr 6, 2003
You forgot the fact that you say the OT is no longer really important because the NT is a new covenent. Thus, contradictions between the two are really just changes introduced in the new covenent.
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