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HolidayGirl Started conversation Apr 13, 2004
Good to find someone else who is studying Human Design. I'd be interested to know how you found out about it and what made you decide to study it.
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 13, 2004
Gosh, HolidayGirl, your timing is good! I've *just* came back from the Isle of Wight. I'll reply more fully when I've unpacked and had some food. What did you think of the entry?
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 14, 2004
Hi again HolidayGirl,
How did I get interested in Human Design? I read about it in Kindred Spirit (I think) - there were two articles about a year apart. I can't remember what gave me the push to have my design done (a year to the day) - if my birth time is correct, I'm a single definition emotional generator - if not, I'm a reflector. I must admit to not getting the a-ha and the a-un. I've not yet begun analyst training, however it's something I want to do. I did a weekend training with Genekeys a while ago.
How about you?
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HolidayGirl Posted Apr 14, 2004
I thought your article was a pretty good overview of Human Design, but I do find that there are lots of words that get used in HD-speak that can be misunderstood or are not quite obvious in their meaning like strategy, consistent, awareness, resistance, motor, etc.
I think there is scope for an article about what it means to live your design, and maybe I'll think about writing that sometime.
I'm a 5/1 splenic pure generator, and everything that suggests about me I've so far found to be very accurate. I too saw an article in Kindred Spirit, and I'm now attending the Genekeys training courses. The last one was about profiles, which I found really interesting.
I've also got the Rave Window software and I've noticed that if you don't know your time of birth then if you try out different times the thing most likely to change is the profile. So there are several people whose date of birth I know but not their time, and when I look at their charts the channels and gates don't vary through the day, but the profile does.
What reaction have you had from your workmates? I can't imagine asking my colleagues for their birth details and trying to explain their charts to them!!
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 14, 2004
I haven't got the Rave window software, and I had my design done on a mixture of guesswork and dowsing. Depending on the time of day, I could be reflector (early morning), single definition emotional generator (so you can guess I have the channel of mating), or a reflector (late evening). I've three completely open channels too.
I don't know the times for my mum and dad. Dad is either a pure Generator or a Manifesting Generator (I suspect a pure one), but mum could be either a Reflector, a Projector, a Generator or a slightly different Reflector, depending on the time.
There were things I left out of the entry - it would have meant it got too long and complicated - and I did show it to Sheila at Genekeys for her comments too.
I have done charts for people at work (well, they've sent away for them) and I've given them a brief overview. A couple were interested and one found it helpful - in the main, I've got a bemused response. I found it helpful to know what they were, though.
There would certainly be scope to write about living your design. Have you done an article for the newsletter yet?
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HolidayGirl Posted Apr 14, 2004
I guess I'm lucky that I do know my time of birth. Have you tried to verify the idea that you're a generator, and have you considered what the defined centres mean and if they make sense to you?
I know what you mean about the sacral sounds. When I had my reading, you can hear me on the tape saying ah-ha, mmmm, but I don't tend to think of myself as grunting! What I do experience when asked to make a decision is either a definite sinking feeling when I don't want to do something, or a feeling of lightness when I do. And I can also look back on things I've agreed to do against my gut feelings, and they have turned out to be mistakes!
I've not written any articles yet, but the idea of the living your design one is growing on me - I just need something to respond to then I'll know what my gut feelings and instincts tell me to do!
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 14, 2004
Oh, on the tape, I did hear myself saying 'aha' and 'mmm', that's true. And listening to the tape, it did make sense. Maybe I just don't pay enough attention to gut feelings - for me they seem to be very weak.
When I was in Newcastle, I did notice that I was drawn to the three Reflectors there and spent my time with them, one in particular. He told me that mostly he's uncomfortable with the energy of Generators (and one of the others had to leave because she found the energy too disturbing), but didn't find that with me. Mind you, I'm very open, Generator or not - open crown, undefined head, undefined throat, spleen and root, open 'G' centre and heart and it's often been a problem for me. Now I know it's generally other people's 'stuff'.
I was told that my channel is the 'aura cutter'. If it is, I'm not particularly aware of it, but as a 2nd line, I wouldn't be!
How long ago was it when you had your design? What changes have you made in your life?
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HolidayGirl Posted Apr 15, 2004
I had my reading in July last year and I started the series of training courses in November. I've made loads of changes in my life but the main change is that I decided to trust my gut feelings and instincts. I've always known that my instinctual feelings are strong, but previously I've let my mind talk me out of decisions, or I've been influenced too much by what other people want me to do. Last year, before my reading, I was asked if I wanted to go on holiday with a couple of friends and my initial reaction was NO. But I let them talk me into it because I didn't want to let them down, and when I got there I had an awful time, hated it and wanted to come home! I also trusted my instincts when they told me to leave my job – without another one to go to. And I managed, despite the frustration, to wait until the right job came along, and now I have a much shorter commute, more free time and I'm much more in control of the work I do. The other thing I've done recently is buy a house, purely because it felt like the right house in the right place – and when people ask me why, the only thing I can say was that it felt like the right thing to do, I can’t explain it logically.
The other thing that rings true with me is being a 5/1. All the expectations that people have had of me now make sense, and I've even had the experience of a relationship failing because my partner told me I wasn't the person he thought I was! And I do masses of research – look how many months I’ve been studying HD and I've only recently been prepared to introduce it to other people!
Three reflectors in your course must have been very unusual, there are none on my course and I've never knowingly met one. I can imagine that your gut feelings do seem weak, and if you are emotionally-defined then you have to wait for your emotions to be clear before you make a final decision anyway. In a way it's easier for me because with my sacral and spleen defined and connected to each other I know immediately what my gut feelings are and can act on them.
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 15, 2004
The three reflectors were a fairly young man and two women. I didn't get to know one of the women in any depth, but i did speak with her and I got to know the other two reasonably well. They had a very gentle energy. As I said, one of the women chose to leave early as she found the collective energy too much for her - it was a shame as I really liked her. My analyst was intrigued when he discovered I might be a reflector - I don't think he's met one. He told me that he felt I would be a good analyst if I chose to train and I was the first person he'd told this to. I must still be in the waiting period - although finances and childcare also have their part to play.
When I was doing the Secret of Circuits workshop, I couldn't find my channel in the workbook - (are you single definition as well?) and found that in my copy, it was missing and came right at the end as part of the tribal defense circuit.
I'm just thinking of the ways I've changed since design. I think it's made me much more aware of other people's stuff and that has freed me more from their judgements (and mine). I still take in a lot of their stress, though!
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HolidayGirl Posted Apr 15, 2004
So the only channel you've got complete is the 59-6? I've just read the description of that in Richard Rudd's book - sounds like pretty powerful stuff. (Have you got that book? If not I can type up what it says about that channel.)
Yes, I'm single definition, I have only 3 defined centres: Sacral, Root and Spleen. I've got all 3 Spleen to Root channels defined and the 53-42 Sacral to Root defined.
I agree with you about my judgement of other people now, I'm more and more convinced of people's uniqueness, and when I hear people making sweeping generalisations about people's behaviour and how they should act, it winds me up!
You said that the reflectors had a gentle energy - could you feel people's energy? I couldn't. On the Type and Strategy course they split us into groups based on type and then placed each of us into groups of different types. Many projectors said they could feel the generator energy, temperature changes and things but I couldn't feel anything at all!
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 16, 2004
'Feel' energy may be too strong - sense might be a better word.
Just off out, however yes, I'd like to know what Richard Rudd said about the 59-6. Which book is it?
All 3 Spleen channels to Root including the 53-42 to Root? You have two motors then. I met someone with all four and his energy was just buzzing!
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HolidayGirl Posted Apr 16, 2004
This is from 'Circuitry - A Complete Guide to Circuits, Channels and Gates' by Richard Rudd:
59 - 6 The Channel of Mating
You have a very powerful auric field that penetrates people very deeply. This means that you can be intimate with almost anyone very quickly. Although this is natural for you, it is not for others, so you need to be aware of how easily you can be misunderstood.
As the creative channel of the Defence Circuit, this is the gate of pure fertile power. It is the demand of our genes to endlessly create more life. This is literally about making babies, but is also about birthing projects and creative processes. It is the law that life must always create life.
These people are here to penetrate others, breaking down barriers to open the way for intimacy and the birthing of new endeavours. They have very penetrating auras and can penetrate anyone's emotional defences, often without being aware that they are doing it.
The 59th gate is always available for intimacy but the 6 decides through its emotional wave patterns when and where this can happen. People who have only this channel and no other activations in the Solar Plexus have a very stable and hidden emotional wave which usually takes another person to bring it to the surface.
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 16, 2004
Hmm, I was aware of the first part, but not of the second. I have the conscious 59-2 and the 6-2, so it may not be a sexual thing and it may be less dynamic than other lines. I wonder if the birth time is incorrect, whether the lines would differ? I do have two other gates in the solar plaxus - would that make a difference?
What did the projectors say about temperature change? Did they feel the temperature rise in the presence of generators?
It's a while since I've looked at my notes on circuitry - I'm now inclined to review them!
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HolidayGirl Posted Apr 18, 2004
Yes, the projectors said they felt very hot stood in a group of generators, and could they open a window?!
If you want you can give me your birth date and place then I can see what Rave Window produces for times throughout the day, looking particularly at that channel?
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 18, 2004
Thanks! I was born in Bury, Greater Manchester on 17.9.52. (Mum was born on 2.12.22 - her possibilities are quite remarkable, I'm told. I've been trying to work out what she is as I'm sure that she's living a very not-self life.)
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HolidayGirl Posted Apr 18, 2004
Well, there's a thing. I spent 7 years of my young life in Bury, did my 11+ there and spent a year at the girls' grammar school until I was whisked off to Leicester! Never did develop much of a taste for black pudding tho' Right, I'll have a look at your charts and let you know .....
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HolidayGirl Posted Apr 19, 2004
OK, here are your results:
Midnight on 17/09/1952 to 4am – Reflector, gate 6 defined, gate 59 not defined, 2/4 profile
4am to 9:20am – Generator, whole channel 59-6 defined, 2/4 profile
9.20am to 10:05am – Generator, whole channel 59-6 defined, 2/5 profile
10:05 to 12:25pm – Generator, whole 59-6 defined, also 27-50 defined, so Spleen is defined too, 2/5 profile
12:25 to 3:15pm – Generator, whole 59-6 defined, Spleen defined too, profile 3/5
3:15pm to 8:15pm – Generator, gate 6 defined, gate 59 not defined, Spleen defined but Solar Plexus no longer defined, 3/5 profile
8:15pm to midnight – Reflector, gate 6 defined, gate 59 not defined, 3/5 profile.
So, which time would you prefer to have been born??!!
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 20, 2004
That's interesting! I'll have a good look at these during the week.
I actually don't particularly have a preference - I quite like the thought of being a Reflector, but the strategy is quite scary. Also, I wonder if it's more difficult for a reflector to find a compatible relationship. That aspect has always fascinated me - what attracts and what makes for a difficult relationship.
Have you done anything on this aspect yet?
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Zarquon's Singing Fish! Posted Apr 20, 2004
Oh, I meant to ask you when you were in Bury. I did develop a taste for black puddings. When I lived in Birmingham and my parents were still in Bury, I used to get a load to take back with me after visits. Now, I'm vegetarian, so of course I don't even think of them.
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