h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

Dropping by to say hi. And thanks. This would be where we get all effusive and mushy and stuff like that, except we're not going to, so this is just the place where we would have done, had we been going to, which we're not, but [Your turn to waffle now, love? Go to bed!]

Oh. Oops. Sorry!

Great talking to yous. Another time soon?

Much love

Phoebe [interrupted by Ethan]

Yes, another time.

Yes, soon.

And love back to you.

Glad we could be there when we were needed.

Keep on taking care of yous, okay?

Us.

*yoop*


Fancy squeaking you here!


how are they?

Terri.

LOL

I'm everywhere, except for those times when I'm nowhere.

They've been better. And will be again. I insist.

David

Good

So have we, so will we.

squeak soon,

Terri, Yoda & Sputnik.

Hello Symphony, D-sys, Terri, and Abbi! I'm among friends here, right? How are everybodies?

Hi, Willem!

You're among friends, even though one of those friends is no longer allowed be be here. I just got back in from Toronto, where I had taken my mother so she could help her brother and his wife celebrate their 60th anniversary, only to find that LeKZaphobia has raised it's ugly head again.



I'm having trouble putting how angry I am into words just now. This is obviously not a safe place to be a multiple person, since any multiple person, any place on the planet, is deemed to be LeKZ, which is, as we all know, a crime against humanity. I'm amazed at the zealotry of the anti-LeKZ sentiment, and reminded more than a little of the Joe McCarthy HUAC hearings.



I actually had a good time staying in the home of my cousin Ian and his family, discovering the number of ideas we share in common, and am hoping to visit them more often.

David

Hi David, glad you got there & back safely; what a bloody shame you had to return to this.

How's mum? How are the others?

zdt

Hiya, terri!

Mum is content. The trip went pretty much without a hitch and she got to see her brother for what will most likely be the last time, given her health and his health.

The folks we stayed with, a cousin and his wife, mother-in-law and a disabled brother-in-law, were great. We had a great time agreeing with each other on subjects like unions and international politics and learning about some of the domestic (to Canada and to the US) political workings. Only my cousin's mother-in-law wasn't quite an exact match in that, which was fine. She and my mother had a wonderful time talking over each other and thinking that they were having a conversation.

As for *this.* This sort of witch-hunting is why I left last time. We'll see how it goes this time.

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Hi! Where is the witch-hunting this time? I wanna help fight back!

Hi Willem

It's in my journal, F71865?thread=303269

Thanks. Oh how this blows big-time.

A1285210

SEF dropped by and gave us this link.

F126901?thread=313775&latest=1

Our reactive reaction.

Having a bit of trouble with this.

Us lot

Can't say that I blame yous.

Do yous have any idea how weird it feels to be typing this to you while knowing that you're actually on the telephone talking to the person in the room next to me?

indeed!

Only wish that call hadn't had to end when it did, but there was no way we could stay conscious.

We're off for a bath now. C-Ya

Loren, for Rainbow/Symphony

"Bittersweet Symphony"

The Verve; which is what we need to cope with all this sort of thing I reckon.

zdt

I'm certain I've definitely got a lot of verve! The song is also not too bad ...

Anyways since I find myself in this particular company I'd like to ask something.

I'm now planning a book ... a full length novel, and I've got the basic plot pretty well worked out. It will be set in an alternative reality kind of world so as to not get into trouble by misrepresenting (*or* too accurately presenting ...) the 'real' world or real people, or real companies, agencies, political parties, resistance movements, cults, etc ...

The book I'm planning will be about a sort of global conspiracy-situation with lots of mind control and incredible violence and destruction and about *some* people who manage to sort of escape from it all. It will be done very science-fiction-like ... lots of weird and impossible technology, and paranormal stuff also. Beneath the surface though this book will actually be about my own paranoia, my own 'issues', problems, and experiences and so on ... it will be very weird in many respects, but strangely enough it is going to be about my life and about what happened here in South Africa, but it is going to *seem* on the surface of it to be about a totally different place and totally different people.

But I do wish to work in elements of what other people I've known have experienced. It will be very much transformed in the details but the core of it will be similar. And that's what I want to know from yous ... D-sys, and Symphony and perhaps Terri as well ... can I ask yous about some of your experiences ... by email perhaps? I still would like to know more of how mind control works. I already know a lot about manipulating people through propaganda and through controlling the information they have access to ... manipulating people by means of different sorts of messages presented in different sorts of media ... manipulating people by confining their lives into a sort of 'total institution' where people remain from birth till death and everything they see, hear, feel, smell or taste is controlled by the 'leaders' or the 'bosses' ... about breaking people's wills through various kinds of torture ... but I still don't know enough yet about mind control through the deliberate infliction of violence and trauma to produce multiple personalities ... I stll don't quite understand yet how 'suicide programs' work or more importantly, how to *beat* them ... or, how 'internal abusers/comtrollers/perps' are created who will sit inside silently and watch the mind-controllee's every move, and note and report anything suspicious... or deliver the controllee into the hands of an abuser just as they wish to get out ... and, again, how these internal watchers can be beat. And also, how a mind controllee could eventually triumph over *everything* that has been done to them ... become a 'whole' entity again, not someones divided against themselves and making war against themselves ... and how such people could become happy and healthy again, beat the PTS, beat all the internal destruction, and become capable of leading their own lives at last.

I don't want the book to contain instructions for creating a mind-controlled slave ... and that is also I want to aks your opinions about ... I need to just *slightly* change reality, for instance put in a few things, take out a few things, but the whole of it has to sound realistic and plausible. I want people who read the book to be convinced that mind control can happen, can be done, and that it is something to be aware of and to guard against, individually and socially ... without becoming too paranoid about it. For me especially what would be important is how people who have been so extremely mind-controlled could get out, escape, and heal. I know how I have escaped from political and religious extremism ... though I'm not sure I've fully escaped yet. I will only have 'escaped' when at last I feel safe and secure and in some way in control of my own life and futre. But I'd like to know more about how other people have escaped, whether fully or partially, such as yous, D-sys, and Symphony ... and perhaps you too, Terri, about how you escaped from abuse and trauma and how you've healed ... difficulties you've had with the healing ... and anything else that's relevant and interesting.

Do you guys think that writing such a novel might be a good idea?

Oh just one thing ... Symphony, I really hope I'm not out of line here ... I don't know if you've said anything here on h2g2 about being a trauma/abuse survivor ... but something like that did come out in the discussion of the closing of your account ... yous are open about being multiple which usually involves stuff like that ... but if you are uncomfortable about talking about any of it on h2g2 then OK ... if yous are uncomfortable about talking about any of it to me, then OK as well, and if I'm way out of line then please say so...

Willem, from previous email conversations we've had, you know that we're willing to share some information about our past with you via email and to answer some of your questions. Some stuff we won't share. We're not inclined to give even you, who we trust comletely, "how to" type information. The more people who don't know "how to," the safer the world is.

D-sys

Hi Willem, David;

I agree. It's too bloody dangerous. I don't mind at all helping out by email, with regard to my own personal experience of a mother who did her damndest to confuse, torture & destroy me, but I know nothing much about more global stuff.

It's good that you feel able to put this down in the form of a book though, Willem. Hard work mind you, she says, speaking from experience!

Terri