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No. I was curious to know, but I didn't need to know. You got me, though: I thought it was PR back for more. Better style of writing, but same antagonism. An IP address is conclusive evidence, though. I would have expected more (but then I'm devious - I always want the bad guy to win! Not that I take sides...) I'd have used a different computer, for example.)

I was intrigued as to why SL was ignoring me. There's a grudging reason that I don't want to admit. There's also the obvious: sitting on the fence, I don't rise to enough arguments.

Oh, dear. Poor her (I'm talking about a person with a compulsion, if it *is* LeKZ, and I'm talking about a person with a maligned reputation, if it *isn't*).

I'd be interested to see the proof you put up on that hate-filled thread of LS, if you would post it to me. But that's your choice. I like to view all pertinent data, and that proof seems very relevant to today's debacle.

x x Fenny (wondering what happened to Zero Intolerance. Also advertising rooms Outside The Asylum, because it's saner out here)

Hi. A few things.

First - I do think it's awful to imply that SL could have been PR. Don't even suggest it. "Better style of writing"? Understatementmeister! Also, initially at least, SL wasn't "spweing vitriol" (sic).

Second - "proof" stuff on LS has been put back up, post 1285 ish - it doesn't break the house rules after all. Read if you must. It is *not* relevant to SL banning, however.

Third - "hate filled"? Matter of opinion, of course. But I tried to post facts only, and encouraged others to do so. We were being asked for character statements by someone who appeared to be independent. I didn't think praising someone to the sky for being incapable of lying was helpful. Stating the *truth* - that they are *compulsive* about the truth, lie *very* infrequently and almost never without a *very* good reason - is more powerful, I think, because it is more likely to be believed. Saying "they're a saint" just makes the person saying it look ridiculous. Saying "they're *not* a saint, but if there's anyone closer, I haven't met them, and I've met a lot of people" says something quite different. That, of course, turned out not to be good enough. Qu'est sera, etc.

Sorry to drag this up, but I did think you'd be interested. You won't hear about it from me again, unless you actively want to.

H.

I do actively want to! And I promise not to spew vitriol, either, unless with an appreciative audience and several ambulences standing by.

I didn't *need* to, because I was not impressed with SL. But I do like the parts of LeKZ I know, and so the leap from SL to PR was easier. I hope you can understand that, because I find it hard to be misunderstood...

Yes, I do actively want to speak to you again. Not from work, though - I'll send again from home, in a few hours' time.

x x Fenny (UT)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/F55683&thread=127664&skip=1284

et seq

Note also that the eventual posting of personal material and confession was *not* motivated by anything posted here, but rather at That Other Place I Can Allude to but not provide a link to. Or topica, as we're apparently now allowed to say. Looking back now, with the knowledge that SL was LeKZ, I'm amazed by the *huge* difference in tone between what was posted here and there by what it now appears was the same body, at least, although I suppose I shouldn't be - SL *had* to appear to be reasonable. At topica, they could let rip, and they did.

"spweing vitriol" was something PR said once, in his inimitable way, and it's stuck ever since. I didn't mean you might! It was just something I kept writing back to him, when he was still here, hoping he'd see the dig. He never did, bless him.

Anyway, I'm not going to ramble on. Please read. I posted the link to you and a few others because when I checked on the "Modest Proposal" page for SL, there was the beginnings of synchronised jumping on the "ban her" thread, and nothing at all on the "don't" thread. It seemed too one sided, and although my (very slight) vote went in the "ban" thread I don't think it does the process or anyone involved any favours if there is no voice for the defence, so I tried to mobilise one. You're one of the FoLKZ, hence the message. Peace.

H.

"Peace back atcha" as they say when they want to sound cool. Truly. Yes, I'll give the [previously known as] Modest Proposal a fair hearing. I'm still gaining information, but I'm also gaining an opinion. I'm also still gaining emails, but I don't know if you are, because I wouldn't recognise your address! (A simple 'yeah' or 'ney' would suffice: you don't need to tell me it!)

I'm going to check the information, and will return to talk more if I'm on for a while.

x x Fenny (for Truth, Justice, and Universal Tolerance)

Hi Fenny.

The email address to which such communications may be sent is no longer in use. I doubt anything has been sent there though. I'm the Enemy.

Best wishes gaining information, I'll be interested in your opinion.

H.

Yes, I'd worked out that you were The Enemy. I don't like the logic of that, but never mind. I won't be your Enemy, as long as you're not mine!

I don't think there's a way to convince you I won't take sides, but I can *tell* you. You'll just have to watch and wait, and see that you won't catch me out. Maybe then one day you'll trust. Until then ... I'm still working out what to put in favour of Silent Lucidity, whose name chimed like a bell. I never corresponded with him, and my only positive opinion of him stemmed from his name. On the contrary, there was plenty negative to give me an opinion. "Don't ban him; I liked his name"?

Re: my research: you don't need the email I received, after all. Barton put it up, almost word for word, on the LS thread! This follows a grand old tradition, of FoLKZ putting up on one thread, what they've found on another! I would like to think that I've never done that.

Yawn. Well, it's that time again (as I fall asleep at my screen) and I'm going to catch some zzz!

Night, then!
x x Fenny