This is the Message Centre for shagbark

h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 1

h5ringer

Hi Shagbark. I'm currently sub-editing an Entry on the US Social Security Pension Scheme. The current work-in-progress version is A87725415.

In the PR thread (F19985552?thread=7986063) for the original entry, you made some useful comments about it. I have tried to ensure that yours and all other PR comments have been addressed. Could I ask you to give the current version another read through? Sadly the author seems to have smiley - elvis

I have two specifics that I would like advice on:

1. <>
There appears to be a conflict here. Which office actually issued SS numbers, local post offices or the Baltimore national office?

2. In post #30 of the PR thread you asked: <>
Are you able to confirm one way or the other whether the Entry is right or wrong>?

Any input appreciated smiley - biggrin

Thanks
h5ringer


h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 2

shagbark

someone recently asked if they could opt out and were told no.
http://askville.amazon.com/opt-out-Social-Security-system/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=1338366
several other sites say \: congress closed a loophole in 1983 that allowed municipal workers to opt out.

My aunt in Florida taught 26 years in public school prior to 1983 and never was in Social Security.
I will need to do further research to answer what entity issued the first Social Security numbers.


h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 3

shagbark

another site said that when Congress passed the Social Security Act in 1935, it excluded federal, state, and local government employees from mandatory coverage. The exclusion for state and local public employees was based on constitutional concerns about whether the federal government could impose taxes on state governments. In the early 1950s, Congress passed a law that allowed state and local government employees to be covered if they voluntarily chose coverage in a referendum.


h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 4

shagbark

Certain geneology sites use the application for social security to gain information. Here is one of the original forms
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~stephan/maps/james.aloysius.1936.html


h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 5

shagbark

And here is the answer to the post office involvement
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/ssn/firstcard.html
Before social security set up local offices the Postal offices assigned the numbers then sent them to Baltimore to be added to the master file.


h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 6

shagbark

I looked it over. I think it is a bad idea ending a section with ... as if it were some sort of cliff-hanger.
Rather than say this was not always so... I would say this was not always the case.
In the section 1983 Modifications change
The individual States were prohibited from terminating Social Security coverage for State and local employees.
to:The individual States were prohibited from excluding Social Security coverage for State and local employees.
note I have changed one word and it completely changes the meaning.
(Prior to 1984 State and county employees could be excluded)


h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 7

h5ringer

Many, many thanks for your valuable input here smiley - ok

smiley - biro<> Those were the exact words I wrote to begin with, then changed my mind smiley - rofl First thoughts are best eh?

smiley - biro<>
I've clarified that section. I couldn't resist adding a footnote, taken from that Social Security .gov website, that mentions the way in which 001-01-0001 was allocated to Grace Owen only after 2 false starts. It's just that kind of little snippet that I so love about historical research.

smiley - biroterminating >> excluding

smiley - biroI've given you an Additional Researcher credit

smiley - cheers


h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 8

h5ringer

For some reason I've never understood, Credits do not appear until after the Entry goes live smiley - erm


h5ringer calling Shagbark

Post 9

shagbark

I noticed that to. I just gave Dimitri credit on my Indiana article.


Key: Complain about this post

More Conversations for shagbark

Write an Entry

"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a wholly remarkable book. It has been compiled and recompiled many times and under many different editorships. It contains contributions from countless numbers of travellers and researchers."

Write an entry
Read more