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kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website Started conversation Sep 26, 2011
Hi Effers,
I've thought about this *alot* and have reached the point where I need to put an end to any contact between us. When we tried to sort this out we've just going round and round in circles, bad circles. It's unhealthy for me, and IMO unhealthy for you. I can't resolve things with you in the way that you want and I can no longer tolerate this situation.
I'm not able to take part in any kind of sorting out thing, and I need to have a full break from contact with you for a period of time.
At some point we can probably have contact in the Ask etc threads in a conversational kind of way but for the next few months I really need you to give me some space so that I can get my h2g2 life back to normal.
I need you to stay away from my PS completely. Please don't start new threads, and please don't comment in my journals and other PS threads, or personal convos I am having with other researchers.
Unless you can respect my need for space now I can't see any kind of future contact being meaningful. This is a bottom line for me.
I've asked the current Eds and the new Community Editors' team to keep an eye on this and take on responsibility for sorting out any problems so I don't have to get involved again. I really trust them to do this in a good and fair way for all concerned. I have also asked them to make sure that you don't get harassed by others over this.
I know that you have been having a hard time in recent months and that this may make things harder. I trust that you have good skills managing your illness and internal processes, and I know that you have good support from good people on h2. You seem to have been doing much better in the past week which has been good to see.
I think you have done ALOT of really good work recently to change how you are onsite and I really hope that you continue to do this. I think you aren't getting much credit for that, but I'd encourage you to stick with what you've been doing.
This post seems blunt, and I'm sorry about that. I am really at my limit of what I can offer here but I genuinely wish you all the best.
kea.
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Effers;England. Posted Sep 26, 2011
I already arrived at this decision myself about contact..so you don't need to be sorry.
Things are incredibly much clearer to me now which is a big relief.
But I'm human with a wicked sense of humour so don't entirely rule out a bit of the unexpected
to noohootoo in the new tomorrow..or is it Friday or Saturday?
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Effers;England. Posted Sep 26, 2011
I won't have direct contact again. But I realised I was very brusque with you in my above response to something very important..and didn't want to just leave you with that. Of course it was for the usual reason of feeling hurt and angry.
Having reflected I wanted to at least give you something good.
I am very broken up about it..and can't make much sense of the whole thing really..and why this has happened. But then lots of stuff isn't conscious.
I still think there is a connection on some deeper level but not on the surface any more.
That's something to feel good about for me.
Yeah to be brutally frank this really is very hard..but it won't alter my very good feelings towards you.
We're just too different..and something happened to you which has meant you can't deal with me any longer I think. I really don't think I've changed that much.
I do want you to feel safe around me. It may take a while to settle down for me though..because if I see your name on a thread it will trigger some feelings..but nothing bad I give you 100% guarentee..but quite unsettling for me.
I even feel strange about posting after you now.
I'll try to keep reminding myself what a different personality from me you have...and try to be a bit quieter in a thread..
You know how much I'll always like you..I hope that is a good thing for you to know to help deal with moving on.
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Effers;England. Posted Sep 29, 2011
I suddenly realised you're the one taking all the initiative here..and I'm acting very passively.
I'll also contact the Community editors when I know how, and about what I want them to do as well. I won't be bothering them straight away obviously.
But I want everything from now on to be completely EQUAL.
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Effers;England. Posted Sep 30, 2011
I'm posting here because I'm feeling incredibly anxious that you have already contacted the Community Editors and will know who they are. I can't do that.
This is a very serious thing that has happened and already you are at a big advantage by telling them how things are and what *you* want.
You insist on no contact..well I'm telling you that here. It's on my ps. This is me looking after my needs.
I don't think I'm being unreasonable. As I say I want EQUALITY in this situation, especially going into such new territory of noohootoo.
I also want my relationship to h2g2 to return to normal. I'm every bit as vulnerable as you.
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Effers;England. Posted Sep 30, 2011
And I'll help with your History Project..by writing the history of this palaver
For goodness sakes everything will be okay with our sense of humour with each other again..that's all the sorting out needed.
It already happened a bit.
And yes I'm breaking all the rules and promises about no contact..you know what I'm like..
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 1, 2011
A permanent break in all contact is now my decision.
I won't post on your ps unless it seems essential. I'm perfectly within my rights to do that if I choose...as are you to yikes things you feel are yikesable on mine.
Your decision to refuse all direct communication makes this the only possible outcome for me to choose.
I wish you all the best.
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 1, 2011
This is seriously stupid in my opinion that you refuse all direct contact here.
I like you immensly..and just want to joke around like we used to. But you leave me messages like that OP
You are punishing yourself as well. Things so easily could be okay again. It even upsets me that you punish yourself as well as me.
And still I don't give up..and make myself look stupid by posting after that last post. And people on h2g2 will probably laugh at me for that. I don't care.
I saw the post you made to Peanut. Your life isn't exactly brilliant. Mine as well.
But I will give up eventually if you want to go on punishing yourself.
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 1, 2011
I think I really am getting the message. You want no more contact with me.
Well you'll always have Peanut.
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 2, 2011
Okay this really is the last time I'll post here..and you can complain about me to the new Eds if I renage.
But I wanted to let you know I will do everything I can to do what you asked in the OP. I might slip up occasionally..I'm human. But all my intentions are to do the right thing..however hard that is on me..and it truly is. i can't guarantee perfection..but I try my hardest.
I got really upset and panicky earlier about the change to noohootoo and I went in the kitchen and the first person to come in my head as to someone I'd talk to would be you. It just came in my head..you can't fake that..of course that got me *really* upset, but it meant all my fundamental feelings are really good ones towards you despite the anger and bitterness.
But a strange thing happened, which you might like, suddenly a cat which has been coming round was there..it hadn't been round for 36 hours or so..and I thought it might have gone. I don't know but it seemed to mean something.
Plus the last time I remember talking to you about something really good was to do with those fox cubs mucking about in my garden, and you posted on my space about that and it being magic.
They weren't such a good omen it seems.
Anyway on the eve of noohootoo i wanted to break the rules one more time and post to you. Hope you can forgive that...
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 23, 2011
It's on my PS
Yes I made that remark about small south Pacific islands..because you appear to make all your argument centred on the US...and assume the rest of us do.
In the last fortnight I haven't had a single conversation involving either the words 'Occupy' or 'Wall street'
America just doesn't figure any more. Everyone knows the real power has now shifted to China.
It'll be China that decides how the capitalist game plays out.
**
Anyhow that's big politics.
I hope to rub along with you..when things settle down.
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 23, 2011
Look kea I'm going through hell at present. Ever since the BBC announced sale of h2g2 it stirred up stuff that I have absolutely no control of..that I buried.
There is absolutely nothing I can do it's so powerful.
I'm so very sorry if I hurt you and carry on. But there's nothing I can do at present.
Please believe me though that the rational me completely respects and likes you.
I hope you can hold onto that.
I really don't know what to do about what is happening to me...it's happening to me..in the same way its happening to you..I can't control it.
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 23, 2011
Hiya
I'm still feeling really happy your guys won the world cup..and that little golden cup is very pretty..I've seen it up close.
(just testing here to see if this post is allowed. I really hope it is).
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 26, 2011
I know you don't talk to me but I do to you. And I have no idea if this post will be allowed.\ But I had to say how much I liked this thread. http://h2g2.com/dna/h2g2/F48874?thread=8282451 Beeb beep...etc Very clever. I liked it a lot. ** There's a Pyrennean caddis fly lavae thing that might come up again and again again
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 27, 2011
Hope you're okay. All that stuff on ASK would take it out of anyone.
I got incredibly angry last night to do with you and this place as usual...
I don't change though really.
My high opinion of you continues
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 27, 2011
I think your post 264 here is brilliant http://h2g2.com/dna/h2g2/F19585?thread=8282996&latest=1 It's such a relief to get some clarity and integration about everything for myself. It'll take a bit of time for us all to sort ourselves out..
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 28, 2011
No, nothing to do with the earthquake. We love you..that makes it seem more exciting. Everything to do with the recession here...and terrible anxiety to do with the economy. The fear factor is really bad. Everyone knows how bad it will be.
My latest music station of choice with no mention of Occupy has competitions for people to win flights and spending money for trips to South island though.
I might win one
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 28, 2011
I read you saying people should stay away from Christchurch.
Why on earth would you say that? Have you asked people in Christchurch if they don't want foreign visitors coming?
I expect not. It's probably due to theoretical reasons.
If Peckham was hit by an earthquake...well it had its own one in a different way in the summer...there is nothing we would love most than a lot of Kiwis coming to visit..cos they heard about that thing.
People in the UK had a *very* strong feeling for NZ after that earthquake. I expressed that in posts here. (Yes I know I made some stupid off the cuff..almost Taff like remark about 'excitement' above) But I would expect people to know that just hides so much care and love for NZ really.
Even youngsters here know so many Brits went to live there. Ancestors from the Scottish part of our family did. My parents have visited their graves.
I don't think anyone should be staying away from Christchurch unless they are specifically saying that themselves.
I mentioned the music station I listen to. The tickets in the competition were for Christchurch not Auckland.
If they don't want Brits visiting them..they should put out a message for that themselves.
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Effers;England. Posted Oct 31, 2011
I don't understand why you keep yikesing stuff.
I like you more than you will know.
It hurts....a lot.
Please stop it.
Come on. You are as messed up as I am about everything.
We are EQUALS.
Do you want me to leave? Just say and I shall.
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