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Alfster Started conversation Feb 29, 2008
I am slowly interacting on this site less and less.
I noticed a reply to me on the new religious chappies PS about you feeling confused etc and also you speaking directly to 'it'.
I would suggest that you cease trying to be friends with 'it' even if 'she' welcomes it.
Why? Because various people who have initailly spoken strongly against 'it's' views but then got suckered into being friends and offering support and advice have finally been kicked in the teeth by 'it' and roundly accused of twisting situations, being disingenuous and nasty.
This all coming from 'it' creating situations whih mean that the 'nice' person reacts angrily and hurt thus giving 'it' a masochistic thrill and some sadistic thrill of hrting someone else(though this I believe is less important).
I have seen this cycle happening for well over 5years and I suggest that you back away because you will get hurt and 'it' will carry on as 'it' has dine for years. Blaming you for causing friction and problems and disrupting the site when it is 'it' that is creating those situations for 'it' own wierd pleasure.
You have come across as very intelligent, caring and logical from what I have seen . Not suffering fools gladly and hence could be accused of 'rampant' what-ever and athiesm blah blah blah. But I would suggest simply ignoring 'it' otherwise it will be you suffering. No level of logical criticism seems to pentrate the skull of that person and if it does it gives a thrill. 'It' will not change, the past5years or so has shown this. It will only be you that suffer.
I am pretty much past caring what happens to this site. It doesn;t offer the stimulus it once did but I don;t want people like you coming in and being suckered into situations that screw you up.
Basically. whatever 'it' throws at you ignore 'it'. You may feel that certain slights remain and tarnish your reputation but it doesn't comments here are less important than todays newspapers which become tomorrows chip paper. THey are tomorrows chip paper alomost immediately when spouted by 'it'
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Effers;England. Posted Mar 1, 2008
Thanks 3dots. I appreciate you taking the trouble to post here. I shall give what you say a lot of thought, because I respect your judgement on most things.
I do feel pretty floored though emotionally by the whole thing, for personal reasons particularly at present, because of my own history of depression at times. The thing about Vicky's brother has really got to me strongly. That's because I am basically a caring person I suppose.
All I can re-iterate is that I accept your advice in good faith.
Thank you.
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Alfster Posted Mar 1, 2008
Nice to know my opinion is worth something!
Can't remember what particular story she has said about her brother. But bascially all I can say is do what I do just don't read her posts, don't interact with her because, if you do have a history of depression, at some point she will use it to her advantage.
I have no idea what particular line she is taking these days but its bound to be in her cycle of lines of engagement with people.
There are plenty of other people on the site to interact with who WILL frustrate you at times but will always be balanced and fair and honest unlike some other persons.
Hope all goes well,
3dots
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azahar Posted Mar 1, 2008
And I'm going to risk being called rude and being told to butt out, simply because I very much agree with what 3Dots has told you.
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He has seen this, and so have I. Over and over again. And it's only out of concern for you that anyone is posting this stuff, Effers. Not out of any desire to slag off D.
The cycle will come around again and you'll be left hurting after all the genuine caring you put into this person. It has always been thus.
Just take care.
az
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Effers;England. Posted Mar 1, 2008
No worries az. I'm glad you've posted *here*. I often have this problem about 'boundaries'. When boundaries get really confused from 'my' perception, I get upset, cos suddenly I can't think straight; particularly if my defenses are down. You posting suddenly on that other thread whilst I was so caught up, completely threw me. And I reacted to that.
People posting here, clearly and appropriately about a specific thing, helps. It's partly because I've been so emotionally drawn into things lately. So its a relief to have a thread which is more about a cool calm and collected approach to something.
I still have loads of food for thought about things.
Of course now that I've said that about boundaries, we may now get a preemptive strike from another quarter, But that won't matter though, because I've anticipated the possibility.
Lots to think about.
Thanks for posting.
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Alfster Posted Mar 1, 2008
And Az should know as she is one specific person to whom I was thinking about while writing the above posts.
Also, look up 'The Drama Triangle' as it is very very pertinent to the situation with the poster I have been taling about.
The thing is as the victim it revels in it and the people who get the angst are the 'attacker' and the 'rescuer'.
Right that's it I will unsub now.
One more thing - if I read it right you have been interacting with Blicky...he can be a pain in the @rse sometimes but he's a great guy.
But then again same goes with me!
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azahar Posted Mar 1, 2008
If it helps, I thought that I was posting *here* the other day, because I found that other thread here on your PS conversation list. I didn't realise it was a thread started *there* (until much later on) or else I would not have 'butted in'.
Wasn't paying enough attention. Sorry about that.
az
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azahar Posted Mar 1, 2008
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This is true, effers. Both of them can be total pains in the @rses at times but at heart they are very good guys.
Gotta admit I feel fonder towards my little bro blicky, but that's *possibly* because 3Dots has yet to come and spend a week here with me in sunny Sevilla.
(yes, that's an invitation!)
az
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Alfster Posted Mar 1, 2008
Oooooo, tempting!!
My life has been full throttle for the past 9months and no signs of it letting up for a fair few months so I'm not planning anything too far into the future.However, ta.
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azahar Posted Mar 1, 2008
Yebbut...
http://azahar-sevilla.com/sevilletapas/
No need for major planning - a call saying "hey got a cheap easyjet ticket for next weekend" would also be okey dokey.
Just so you know it's an open invitation.
For you too, effers.
az
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Effers;England. Posted Mar 1, 2008
>For you too, effers.<
Are you barking?
Unless there's some nice 'padded cell' available for cheap rent in Seville...
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Effers;England. Posted Mar 3, 2008
Thanks for advice, but I have decided to continue speaking to Vicky for now - mostly with humour I hope.
Just thought it was polite to let you know 3dots, here. But I'm more wary and prepared for things thanks to your advice.
I'm afraid it just goes against my nature, whatever that means, to suddenly cut her. And I do still like her. Don't ask me why.
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badger party tony party green party Posted Mar 6, 2008
people saying nice things about me.
Well its nice to see my efforts paying off its even nicer that most of the time I just do what I do and peopletill seem to like it.
As it happens i do what i do because I like it here and most of the people. In all honesty part of what i like here is interacting with the people I dont like eg. SWL and I even enjoy a little friction with people I do like.
Really cant find anything good to say about a few people so I wont so I wont say anything more.
Think we've been *here* before and its nice that after all the kerfuffles we still keep finding each other after the storm.
Take cre nice people.
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