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Effers;England.

I'm confined to my PS. Not sure I can respond or not to anhaga's journal. So I'll post here. Zoomer's post totally nails it fundamentally for me. >What's Wrong With Hootoo? All sorts of things but we don't talk about it in this tragically cool, veiled British site. That wouldn't be cricket. < http://h2g2.com/dna/h2g2/brunel/F110768?thread=8286022 Post 11 And still we don't and won't. It wouldn't be cricket. (I'm English. That's to do with something ancient and the *land* It's complicated and you have to immerse yourself in a lot of literature to understand it - it's been so supressed. And of course simpletons will immediately jump on you with accusations of 'nationalism'..and a lot of other irrelevant nonsense. Aside. The funny thing now is that *literally* we learnt from the Aussies..and now play it the working class way we did in the past..bodyline anyone? I read up on the history of Peckham Rye a massive ancient piece of Common land near me..though some has been built on..it's still pretty big. Anyway in late Victorian, early Edwardian..cricket was played everyday all over the Rye. It was more popular than football, and culturally a working class game essentially. Then it got class ridden. I think it was up until the early sixties even that there were Gentlemen versus Players games at Lords. They entered the field of play via separate gates... Gentlemen were well..? gentlemen. And Players, players..(but we well know gentlemen are also 'players' in a veiled polite way of course...that's cricket).


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Effers;England.


I think I'm allowed to 'flood' here.

End with a A Clockwork Orange scene. (But which to choose?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtRGeyznv7k&feature=related

(NB. to whoever. This film is not to be taken *literally*. It is a 'vision' and expresses something existential.)




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Effers;England.


And something else that truly angers me that a 'wordplay' I made about putting down a New Zealand ground dwelling bird was so *wilfully* misunderstood. How do you put something down that's always going to be on the ground?

Wordplay is a fundamental of h2g2 culture since I've been here. It's one of the true joys.

But now it appears such posts will be disappeared..when the tongue in cheek nature would always be understood. Yes there's double meaning..that's the whole FUN.

Apparently I have to sign post every little bit of humour now with smiley.

That will kill half of it.

I'm therefore going to make a big effort to be less humorous here now. I'll save that for real life...ie that thing which is *really alive* ie wit is still of the highest cultural value.


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Effers;England.


I see a big flood just arrived on my friend's journal.

Unlike some other pretend friendships here I had, I have no worries about him.

Even if I was allowed to post there I don't think I would..it will just give ammo to them.

It was very brave I thought for anhaga to make that stand with that journal thread.

Unlike some others that claim disingenuosly to be 'non confrontational' he truly isn't. It will carry so much more weight for someone like him to speak out rather someone like me.

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I noticed whilst I was away..they didn't post. Now right back at it.

But seriously its h2g2 that matters. Not any personalities. I won't give up fighting for its essential soul.


The Vogons arrived. Billions were killed on planet Earth because of their bypass. One person survived because he couldn't get the hang of Thursdays. I'm still endeavoring to not get the hang of Thursdays. smiley - ok


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Post 5

Effers;England.


smiley - snork In post 26 she says my name 24 times. And I am accused of being obsessive.

Still at least it's not another saturday might ruined from her harranguing about me.

Maybe someone should teach her how to write Haikus.

She told me she worked in a psychiatric hospital locked ward. I'm clearly the main project now.


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Effers;England.

This is nice; post 9 http://h2g2.com/dna/h2g2/F107909?thread=8259821 The authorities have imposed on me that I can only post here..and yet stuff like that get's posted where I have no come back. That post is about as wrong about me as can be. Judging very superficially. And is this person someone who has power to make decisions about me? kea will know of course..and be playing the game. Those that have been at it for months behind the scenes have their own alliances now. WE dumbos have a lot of catching up to do to work out what *really* goes on..I I mean if I was an 'official' here I wouldn't be gossiping and stirring like that on someone's ps. And yet we are constatntly re-assured how 'neutral' it all is. IT JUST CONSTANTLY WINDS UP...the pretence. The Beeb didn't do that in a million years.


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Effers;England.


Oh and she uses that word 'paranoia' again to do with me. So clever.


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Z

Hi Effers
Nice to see you back.

It's important to know who is who.

The list of moderators is here: A87706704 and the list of CEs is here U14916633




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Post 9

Z

Er what I meant to say was that I don't think the person who you are referring to is on either of those lists.


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Post 10

Effers;England.


I'm going to carry on posting in journals.

I've been told tomorrow I can go to general threads on premod. I've stopped reading them in any case.

I won't. I'll be staying here.

But I do keep an eye on certain PSs. They do on mine.


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Post 11

Effers;England.


Woo hoo true sanity has just hit.

Tom Stoppard's 'Real Thing' just arrived. The radio play and text.

anhaga has been nagging me for ages...

smiley - run


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Post 12

Effers;England.


The name Sho has come up a lot. And if you are seriously suggesting I have as *influence* with people behind the scenes as her..I say I disagree.

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The running sore though is to do with my former long standing friend. That's the heart and *hurt* of it.

Zero communication is not a good way to sort anything out.

But anyway off to the Real Thing.


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anhaga

I ho`pe you enjoy it. After all the build u`p I've given it, I'm worried.smiley - erm


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Post 14

Effers;England.


smiley - snork

Worry you not. I haven't even got down to it as of yet....later...too over wrought.

That line 'stupidity made coherent' is already enough..everything else will be icing..

No seriously don't worry. I know what it's like when you recommend something. Trust my intelligence smiley - laugh I know I'll get lots..

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Meanwhile. Another totally cool young Malcolm McDowell scene from the film 'If'

Seems sort of appropriate as well smiley - winkeye (This is my recommendation for you today anhaga).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqoGcC4S5jk


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Post 15

anhaga

I've unsubscribed from the what's wrong with h2g2 thread. I don't have time for this.

I'm going to watch that clip and then move away from the computer, hopefully for the day. Or longer.

smiley - smiley


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Post 16

anhaga

smiley - rofl


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Post 17

Effers;England.


Oh Jesus I dared to have a look at one or two posts on that ASK thread.

Why the smiley - bleep does my name feature so much.

Everyone with a brain knows it's down to me and kea..to do with what she says about me..and I her.

I liked that woman so much for years. When I first got involved with hootoo..there was a lot of Della war stuff happening..which like an idiot I stumbled on.

And suddenly people were calling me troll or whatever labels. It was so horrible and frightening to me. It was my first time of getting really involved with an internet discussion/social media thing. I was as naive as they come.

kea was always the one to say she didn't think I was a troll..she was so nice. It meant so much to me.

And now this is how things are.

The thing is I can't FORGET how much it meant to me then..and how things could be for a few years with someone you call your FRIEND.

Then all that stuff happened to do with other people. And now this Peanut woman..I don't trust...who continually muddles EVERYTHING.

Well I never ever forget when people stand by me..when others launch onto you..just like anhaga does now.

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It can be sorted out...but I would never have thought an internet thing could go so deep.


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Sho - employed again!

For what it's worth, I don't think that you are the only person who is making h2g2 uncomfortable for a lot of people. You are the one, however, who has made me cross, laugh, angry, laugh, and then just flippin' exasperated.

Which is why, in the Ask thread, I didn't want to use names and I've said that before and I'll say it again.

Kea asked me directly and I answered her honestly. You like honesty so I guess you can appreciate that. The point about the paranoia is that do you feel that everyone is out to get you? I don't know, if you do I don't want to feed something like that because I don't think it's true. You have said repeatedly and at length that you have mental health issues. I have said repeatedly that I think that people should sign up here to the T&C and be treated fairly - I think the new modding team are up to that. I also said repeatedly that if we have people who are having difficulty, for whatever reason, keeping to the T&C then having in-house mods who can (and will, I suppose) look at the site as a whole rather than one post and then make an informed decision about what to do - is a Good Thing. And I am aware (i have kids, I know how different things work for different people) that should two people do the same thing, the modding outcomes might be different.

For the record: I don't have power over anyone, which is what Z was saying in his post.

I think that there has been some divisive behaviiour here, and I think that one or two posts have come very near the mark but not quite over it enough to make me want to yikes them. I think the mods have come up with a good strategy to help you get used to the new site, and I think that it may be a good idea if one or two others had similar personal modding strategies.

Not sure where I want to go with this except one more thing. You mentioned "putting down" (your words I think) the NZ bird. Well, I think that was pretty close to the wire and I'm not surprised that it caused upset.

Lots of people use a smiley or two to indicate that they are not being 100% serious - you have seen first hand how difficult it can be to read what people really mean when it's just a load of different coloured pixels. It really isn't, and as I said elsewhere my 13 year old isn't allowed to get away with this as she should also know better, ok to shrug and say "but I meant it as a joke". Anyone can say that and not mean it.

Waffled more than I meant to. Sorry for that.


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Post 19

Effers;England.


Hey thanks Sho for dropping by. I need people to come to me, confined as I am.

I haven't read all your post..I'm too upset. I will later.

It's so completely horrible to see that ASK thread with my name..and all these people talking about me. I absolutely hate it it hurts so much.

I get a lot of mememe stuff thrown at me. Yes maybe because I'm oversensitive. It comes in on me. But truly deep down it is the h2g2 community I care about and it being something CREATIVE.

I cannot believe kea is doing this...she once made a strong point to Dr. Zen about my oversensitivity. She will know how hurtful to do that is.

I wouldn't do that to her in a million years; ie take advantage of someone being confined in their posting area..and make merry elsewhere and on a general thread.

I don't know how to deal with the contradiction of how she *used* to be with me..and now.

She won't talk..just sends Peanut to harrangue like her mouth piece.

At least anhaga *fully* understands how cruel that it is..and doesn't snipe about victimhood stuff.

If you knew me in real life...a less victim type person it would be hard to find. But on the internet people seem to easily turn into keyboard warriors..everything gets turned upside down.

Taff has told me stuff about some bullies here..but in real life apparently they are very cowardly. I hate that aspect of online.


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Post 20

Effers;England.


And she has a socking great badge on her space saying, OFFICIAL GURU.

When I first came to h2g2 I remember seeing Clive's guru badge. The first thing I thought was
'Oh that person is to be trusted. Clearly a long standing member with experience..and will be totally fair'.

And so it proved. He helped me out a few times as redpeckham. He might have forgotten. But I don't. I've also had the pleasure of meeting him in real life.

But that was BBC h2g2 gurus.


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