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Subbing Armagh Rail Disaster
Bagpuss Started conversation Feb 23, 2010
Hi Kipper,
I'm the assigned Sub-Editor, and you can find the new version of your entry here: A62221466
I've made a few corrections in terms of spelling, grammar and style, but I think there's also one point of railway terminology that might confuse people. Just below the 'Turning Point' heading you say the driver 'eased back'. Is there a nice, simple explanation of what this is and whether it was necessary that I can add?
Subbing Armagh Rail Disaster
kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? Posted Feb 23, 2010
Eased back in this case means to roll backwards ever so slightly
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Bagpuss Posted Feb 24, 2010
Okay, though I'm curious as to why he should have done this. Is it typical for an engine starting on a hill?
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kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? Posted Feb 24, 2010
I believe it was unintentional
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Bagpuss Posted Mar 2, 2010
Hello again.
Sorry, it took me a while to get around to having another look at this. It's just about fine for me to send it in for inclusion in the EG, but I'd like to check on the statistics:
You say 80 people died, all from the 10.00 train. I found another BBC article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourplaceandmine/armagh/A1304245.shtml) that claims 88, and Wikipedia has 78. Then there's a question of how many carriages there were, the other BBC one says 12, of which 8 were left. Wikipedia agrees with you.
Obviously I've hardly done comprehensive research on this, but can I ask what your source was and how sure you are of it?
Finally you said there was an average of 28 deaths a year over the previous 20 years. Is this definitely reliable.
Thanks for your time.
Subbing Armagh Rail Disaster
kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? Posted Mar 2, 2010
The history of trains says 15 coaches and 80 lost and British railway disasters says 80 lost and 15 coaches. I cross reference
hope that helped.
All the fatalities of the accidents on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_in_the_United_Kingdom wiki page between 1869 and the Armagh disaster come to around twenty, that page also says 80 were killed
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kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? Posted Mar 3, 2010
Its actuaklly less than I said being around 17
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Bagpuss Posted Mar 7, 2010
I make it about 23. I guess I'll leave the stats as they are other than that, though the fact I can find different numbers makes me a bit nervous.
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kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? Posted Apr 12, 2010
If your taking out the averages stat take out the reference to the Tay bridge
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Bagpuss Posted Apr 12, 2010
Sorry, it's returned to the editors now. I can't make any more changes.
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