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Effers;England. Started conversation Oct 18, 2011
Hi Lanza,
I want to re-submit this for Peer Review..but the 'submit for review' button has become 'not for review' in the version I'm putting in.
How can I get it back into Peer Review?
Also good to see you again .I only finally just got here.
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h2g2 Guide Editors Posted Oct 18, 2011
hey
good to see you made it back as well.
Can you give me the link to the Entry that you wish to submit - I can see two versions on your PS. Oh, and please bear with us, as we haven't quite got all the Editorial functions working as they should be.
LB
Caddis fly article
Effers;England. Posted Oct 18, 2011
Hey no worries Lanza..and thanks for replying when you must be so busy with stuff.
It just meant something to me to set the wheels in motion as soon as I got in here. It means a lot.
But take as long as you like to get it sorted.
It's this version:-
http://h2g2.com/dna/h2g2/brunel/A81059088
Most important that it's this version
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 17, 2011
Hey Lanza/Eds can you help me with this now so I can re-submit to Peer Review?
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Nov 17, 2011
Yes, I've read the version of the Entry that you linked to, and see that it is ready for Peer Review.
At the moment it is marked 'not for review' so this needs altering. If you're not able to do this, I can go and fix it, and submit it on your behalf?
This might take the edge off you having to respond to any suggestions - no doubt there will still be some queries. That's the way of Peer Review, but I appreciate that this might make you feel uneasy.
Tell me if you want me to do it this way. As kea edited it for you, she will be credited as joint author should it eventually be published in the Guide. Another consideration for you to think about.
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Effers;England. Posted Nov 17, 2011
Yes I want it in the Guide. Yeah if you could fix it that would be great. Thank you.
And if I get confused by what people are asking I'll get back to you. I'm not going to be all precious about it now. I just want it in the Guide.
I'm very happy that kea is credited as joint author.
Many thanks.
Caddis fly article
Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Nov 17, 2011
I've amended the Entry, so that you now have the editing rights once more, and also so that you can submit it yourself to Peer Review.
If you have any more queries, please ask
Caddis fly article
Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Dec 2, 2011
Hi Effers
I've subbed your Caddisfly Entry now. I've not made much alteration, apart from adding some additional links.
I made one discovery though, and that was that the word caddisfly is usually written as one word, - similar to butterfly I guess. So I changed it throughout. I didn't know this myself until yesterday when I did a bit of background research in order to get a few more links for your Entry.
Can you just give it a final look through, and let me know you're happy, and I will 'send it back' to the Editors. Once this happens, you will see it change to 'pending' on your Personal Space, and it will be in a queue for the Front Page.
Caddis fly article
Effers;England. Posted Dec 2, 2011
I trust you Lanza. That's funny about the spelling.
I just had a look at a copy of the paper I published, and I don't mention that word once..same with the final year project. It's trichopteran larva, Allogamus auricollis..
Thank you for doing this. I can't face looking at it really. It'll be fine. Send it to the editors.
Thank you so much.
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BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows Posted Dec 2, 2011
Reference spelling< just for the record< my issue of General Zoology by Storer and Usinger (a standard text uses a hyphen, thus 'caddis-fly'. So, I guess the bottom line is, it doesn't really matter whether it's one word or two
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Effers;England. Posted Dec 7, 2011
I can't find the other thread. I twice asked for an address.
But hopefully someone here can tell me where I am to email biological drawings of Allogamus auricollis to for that entry.
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Effers;England. Posted Dec 12, 2011
Have sent off two lots of 4 biological drawings to 'artists'/Dr. Anthea.
The big file attachments had arrived yesterday she said...so I just sent them off again as smaller attachments.
And I said you are welcome to use if you want.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Dec 12, 2011
Thanks very much Effers, for letting me know.
Lanzababy
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Effers;England. Posted Dec 13, 2011
Got an email from artists saying they aren't up to standard. Thing is they are decades old..and I can't do anything about the slight crumpling in places...and the way they were put together when I was a 20 year old.
Personally I think they are fascinating for all sorts of reasons...friends of mine think they are wonderful. But I can see how Guide Editors and artists might not like them for the Guide.
I'm done with it now. I'm very busy with other art stuff to do with a real life local thing.
I'm delighted I got it accepted for the Guide.
It's entirely up to the Guide editors now what you will do.
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Effers;England. Posted Dec 13, 2011
Oh but the drawings of the legs are from the scientific paper published...not from the project, so I'm surprised they are rejected.
But yeah I can't give any more time to it and I'm through with it.
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Effers;England. Posted Dec 23, 2011
The 'artists' have rejected my biological drawings for the caddis article, saying they are not up to standard. I think that profoundly silly..was Marcel Duchamp's fountain not up to standard? or Carl Andre's Equivalent VIII not up to standard?
I'm sick of the whole business as the aged imperfect look of those drawings goes so well with the actual entry...to do with an adventure long ago..and amateurish as it was 2 young students, working 'in the field'. The wrinkles and fadedness in the paper work brilliantly with the idea..and the clumsy way the drawings are stuck together.
When the 'artists' contacted me, no mention was made of the important relationship between the two 'languages', image and text working together..I don't have a clue if they had even bothered reading the text.
Could you let me know what's happening when you have time?...thing is I don't want those 'artists' getting their hands on them and mangling them by some boring computer technology that would go right against the idea.
I'm happy for it to not go in the guide..or someone else to something 'artistic' according to what h2g2 artists think would work.
But those drawings are originals and friends have told me I shouldn't let h2g2 just mangle them for some Guide entry, if that's what 'artists' might decide to do.
I am quite amazed still by the rigidity of thinking to do with the Guide and the way image/text relationship is virtually ignored.
The whole media design industry is about that in many ways...but apparently not even mentioned in communication with 'artists' just some silly nonsense about not up to standard, as if images are just some add on, after thought.
I'm getting the message now as to how it works in new h2g2 in terms of the guide, and the people's thinking that are calling themselves 'artists'.
By all means chuck the thing in the dustbin or come up with something else to 'decorate' the entry.
For myself I would just publish *without images* It works perfectly well just as text. It's incredibly stupid to have some idea that all text need to be decorated with pretty pictures.
Language is full of imagery of itself.
The whole English tradition of poetry and writing is about the use of image in text.
Caddis fly article
Effers;England. Posted Dec 23, 2011
Look, my tone is a bit strong. It's bugging me the way this whole thing has gone. It's getting to be an shot albatross.
I have respect for you Lanza and loved that little bit you wrote recently to do with owls and snow. You can really write.
But it's getting silly. Why on earth does every entry need literal imagery?
It's a short piece and written in a very visual style.
(Well at least the Ancient Mariner got some sort of resolution)
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BigAl Patron Saint of Left Handers Keeper of the Glowing Pickle and Monobrows Posted Dec 23, 2011
"It's incredibly stupid to have some idea that all text need to be decorated with pretty pictures".
But they aren't!. In the past, providing there were sufficient Entries forthcoming, three new iones were put on the Front Page every week. Of these, in general, only one had an image associated with it.
If, at some later date, an Entry (that originally didn't have artwork) was republished, then sometimes it was given an image. But it's the exception, rather than the rule that Guide Entries have artwork/images.
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