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C**t - not "Kotze" - but maybe from "Kante"
mr_oldschoolbreaker Started conversation Apr 22, 2005
in the explanation for the 4-letter c*** word it reads:
"The word has Germanic cognates including old Norse (kunta), middle-Dutch (Kunte) and possibly High German (Kotze meaning prostitute), which all point to a pre-historic germanic ancestor kunton."
There seems to be at least one error: "Kotze" does not mean prostitute in german, but "puke"
But:
"High german" is the common language spoken all over todays germany, orginating from southern (High=Hilly) Germany, but brought to north Germany (where "flat german" - more similar to dutch and today's english- was spoken before) via Martin Luther's first german bible (yes the northern germans mostly dropped their own language for that book)
since i myself grew up and live in northern germany, i have a little knowledge of some "flat german" expressions: The most similar High German word to "c**t" is "kante" (meaning "edge"). The flat german equivalent is "kant", as in the flat Germans "waterkant" (="wateredge"). The high (=southern) Germans (who don't know much about water at all) would call it shortly (Wasser-) Küste. So if the english "c**t" origins from a german word, the original meaning should be found somewhere between "edge" and "coast".
Now imagine a female peeing: "c**t" could actually be derivated from "wateredge"
was anybody able to follow my logic?
Back Again to the german word "Kotze" (puke): Phonetically it itself is similar to the vulgar german word "Fotze" which does mean: "C**t" (~90% in usage as well - only it would never be adresse to a male - maybe in the homsexual scene)
C**t - not "Kotze" - but maybe from "Kante"
Mrs Zen Posted Apr 22, 2005
Interesting stuff. I can't remember now whether it was me or Jimster who put in the etymologies. Whichever one of us it was, we'd have pulled them from dictionaries, Chambers in my case, I am not sure which dictionary Jimster would have used.
Thanks for reading and thanks for commenting though.
Ben
C**t - not "Kotze" - but maybe from "Kante"
Cyberwolf10 Posted Sep 12, 2005
I’ve heard that the 'C' word is actually an old English language slang word for ‘sword sheath’, which makes quite a bit of sense when you think about it.
C**t - not "Kotze" - but maybe from "Kante"
Mrs Zen Posted Sep 13, 2005
How interesting.
Though the question is which came first - the chicken or the egg. Was the word for sheath applied to the vagina, or a word for vagina applied to sheaths? Could be either, really.
Thanks for reading, and thanks for posting.
Cheers
Ben
C**t - not "Kotze" - but maybe from "Kante"
Spir-An Posted Nov 3, 2005
"Was the word for sheath applied to the vagina, or a word for vagina applied to sheaths?"
I take it you know the word vagina comes from the Latin word for sheath?
C**t - not "Kotze" - but maybe from "Kante"
Mrs Zen Posted Nov 3, 2005
No, I didn't know that. But it still begs the questions, since vaginas would have been around long before sheaths.
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