A Conversation for Two Wilfred Owen poems

A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 1

Lord Preston

hi, give it a look and a read. any help is welcome, abuse not so welcome except if it's constructive abuse.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A572726
have a look, thanx,
Lord Preston OMFC


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 2

Sho - employed again!

Great idea for a Guide Entry. Do you think it might be easier for people who don't know the poems (or who, like me, read them about 400 years ago) can have a bit of an idea what you're talking about. Then you could follow with your comparison of the poems then a bit of Owen's bigoraphy. Anyway, it's up to you, but that's how I'd like it. smiley - smiley

I mean, if I could read them first; then have a think; and then see what you have to say about them - I'd get more out of this. After all, I may have read them and got the completely wrong end of the stick.

(I think that if you just type in the poem, then wait for a scout to recommend the entry, a sub-ed will "take care" of the GuideML, if you ask nicely. Which I'm sure you will!)


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 3

Gnomon - time to move on

But you're not allowed to include somebody else's poems in your entry without permission. That's a breach of copyright. You can quote small portions of the poems as illustrations if you are discussing the poems, but you can't reproduce the whole thing.


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 4

Sho - employed again!

Ah. Good point. In which case, I would prefer to see a few bigger chunks, then a comparison.


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 5

Lord Preston

breach of copywrite? surely because they are being claimed as Wilfred Owens i haven't breached it at all. it's not as if i'm saying i wrote them. I'll have to take alook into the ins and outs of the law.
and anyway are not wilfred owens poems open to the public anyway. i'm not publishing them to make money so i can't see why it should cause a problem. i'll have a word with mark (moxon) about it, he usualy helps me out with these kind of things, or peta.
thanx for your kind words,
Lord Preston OMFC


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 6

Mikey the Humming Mouse - A3938628 Learn More About the Edited Guide!

Giving credit to people is a nice thing to do, but it doesn't have anything to do with copyright violations. I could run over to the office copier and make copies of a novel -- even if the front page said who the author was, it would *still* be a copyright violation.

Same thing goes for posting poems. It is, however, OK to quote relatively small portions of someone else's work, *if/when* it is in the context of an academic or critical discussion of the work.

Hope this helps some!
Mikey


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 7

Mikey the Humming Mouse - A3938628 Learn More About the Edited Guide!

I should also point out that in the entry, you identify this as an unfinished work in progress. As such, it really belongs in the Writing Workshop rather than Peer Review.

smiley - smiley
Mikey


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 8

Lord Preston

good point but as i just finished it it hardly seems worth poping over there. smiley - smiley, and as you are aware peta has given it the go ahead and says that it's ok and not a breach of copy write. but thanks for your concern, i wouldn't like to see myself end up in court or anyhting. smiley - smiley, now i wonder if i can get a scouts attention, hello? scout? u there?
Lord Preston OMFC


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 9

Sho - employed again!

Hey, it looks good. So now all you need to do is get rid of that bit at the bottom, right?
I much prefer it now the poems are:
a) in full

and

b) at the top.
I can't wait to see it on the front page, good luck finding a scout or whatever!


A572726 - Two Wilfred Owen poems

Post 10

Lord Preston

yeah, the bit at the bottom is gonna go but i was just trying to get somebody to help me out with the peom layout but i no one showed smiley - sadface, thanks for the encouragement.
Lord Preston OMFC


Well Done :-)

Post 11

HappyDude

Thanks for your recommendation. You'll be glad to know that I think this entry is great, and it has now gone into the Editorial Process for future inclusion in the Edited Guide. When it does get into the Edited Guide, the editorial team will email to let you know, but please bear in mind it can take a while for entries to go through the sub-editing system.

smiley - smiley


Persistance is not futile after all

Post 12

Sho - employed again!

Hi, just saw that your "thing" will be included. smiley - bubbly yaaayyy!


Congratulations!

Post 13

h2g2 auto-messages

Editorial Note: This thread has been moved out of the Peer Review forum because this entry has now been recommended for the Edited Guide.

If they have not been along already, the Scout who recommended your entry will post here soon, to let you know what happens next. Meanwhile you can find out what will happen to your entry here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/SubEditors-Process

Congratulations!


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