A Conversation for Project: Latin American Pre-Hispanic Cultures
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Crescent Started conversation Jul 20, 2000
...the Nasca (I am not sure about the spelling) Hope this helps - the 'whole drawings that can only be seen from the air' people
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The Frood (Stop Torture: A455528) Posted Aug 5, 2000
SOrry it took so long to reply, but I had comptuer problems.
Thank you! Would you like to write something about them
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Crescent Posted Aug 6, 2000
I will do - it may take a wee whiley to get round to it, but yes Do you have a kind of template you want followed, or anything? or is it OK to do it freehand
Well, until later........
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The Frood (Stop Torture: A455528) Posted Aug 8, 2000
There is no template, if you find any poetry 'n' stuff like that I'm placing it all in one page and leyends are nice, if you can get them.
Whee! I'll be able to add someone to the list of contributors.
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Crescent Posted Aug 8, 2000
I mentioned this one here http://www.h2g2.com/F28798?thread=67807&latest=1 but there is also the Mowha..... BCNU - Crescent
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Crescent Posted Aug 9, 2000
The Mowha - a typical pre-hispanic culture in the North Peru area, I think, but at their height before the time of Christ - very literal art, actually found the bodies of the people shown in their pictures - lots of big mud-brick buildings (and I mean BIG) the Temple of the Sun and the Temple of the Moon totally surround the hills they are built on. Lots of sacrifices etc.
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The Frood (Stop Torture: A455528) Posted Aug 9, 2000
Thank you! As I only have sufficient information on the Mexican cultures, I need help on South American. Would you like to write something about that one, too? *pleading eyes* If you have enough time, that is.
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Crescent Posted Aug 10, 2000
Yes, I would enjoy it However, it may take a wee whiley (again
Lots on my plate at the moment.....
BCNU - Crescent
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The Frood (Stop Torture: A455528) Posted Aug 10, 2000
Thank you! I don't mind waiting.
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Ixchel Posted Aug 21, 2000
Hi Crescent!
Do you actually mean the Moche with the Mowha?
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Crescent Posted Aug 21, 2000
It could be, I am not sure, I didn't see it written down But it was pronounced Mowha (or was it now, I will have to go and ask
Until later......
BCNU - Crescent
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The Frood (Stop Torture: A455528) Posted Nov 20, 2000
You did say it was going to take you a while... are you still going to write or do you want me to take you off?
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Crescent Posted Nov 21, 2000
I would still like to write it, but with work the way it is at the mo' it will be well into the new year before I get a chance It is up to you - if you cannot wait that long, t'is OK by me to take me off. Whatever you decide
Until later......
BCNU - Crescent
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Clio Posted Dec 22, 2000
Picking up where this has left off. Perhaps I can also be of assistence in collaborating on the Peruvian cultures -- it's what I did at university
And yes, it's Moche. The Mochica, Nazca and Lima cultures were the three predominate groups during the Early Intermediate Period of Peru comprising the Northern, Central and Southern coast. All three groups rose to ascendency after the decline of the Chavin Empire, although the Nazca also have a lot of influence from the Paracas culture, being the furthest from the Northern centers of the Chavin rulers.
Specifically I did most of my research on the societal implications in sacred and secular iconography, especially where displayed in ceramic form. Although I'm way familiar with the sand drawings so popular with fringe "anthropology" in Southern Peru.
Incas -- I might be of some help there too, did some coursework on them. Same goes for Olmecs and Mayans as well.
Toltec and Mixtec (sp? Miztec?) also come to mind for other Central American, Pre-Columbian cultures.
*rant, ponder, unearth old, musty studies*
Fun, fun, fun! Thanks
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Dudemeister Posted Dec 22, 2000
What about those folks up North in Mexico - like the Tarahumara for example? They are still there, but are not as accessible as going to Club Med. I have a couple of dolls made by someone from that community adorning my walls.
What happened to the Chichimecas? I hear it was quite a drama.
This is something I know little about, so I mention for the sake of conversation: Many of the languages that we have in Canada relate to some of those in Mexico and all over North America - those spoken over the last few thousand years before English, French, Spanish, Dutch, German, etc. or even Norse were spoken here.
When you mean prehispanic America, would that also not include the part of the continent that has been the home of the Apache, Cherokee, Seminole and so on, as the Spanish also romped around there too.
How does their culture relate to those further North? In recent history, what effect and how would you compare the different European influences in the way that they are today? That should be enough for a million or so term papers and research projects!
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Dudemeister Posted Dec 22, 2000
As I said - I have huge gaps in my knowledge! Do you consider Apaches for example "pre-colombian"? The folks in Florida and all the way West on the Gulf coast were decimated by De Soto and his (unfortunately inflicted with foreign diseases) Spanish soldiers. Although perhaps this is not what you might call Latin America, it does relate to the history.
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The Frood (Stop Torture: A455528) Posted Dec 22, 2000
Damnation! I have to re-write due to some weird thing that happened...
ANYWAY:
Woo hoo! I have attention!
CLIO:
I really need information on South American cultures and, since you studied Peruvian cutlrues, I am sure you will write something good. Thanks for the help. Just tell me what you are going to write about and I'll link you up
You could also write about a specific subject, rather than a culture. So, if you want to write about the Societical Implications...Iconography, it's great, too.
I could also use information on the Incas, as I don't have much about them. Olmecs I have written about and I am writing about the Mayas (I have lots of information about them, but it is not organized.) I really want feedback, corrections, and information I might have missed on the Olmecs.
Toltecs and Mixtecs I have information about, but if you want to write about them I can just say any info I have you might have missed or something like that.
BTW, I could also use some information on how the ages and places were divided in central and southern america (I have it for mesoamerica).
DUDEMEISTER:
Tarahumaras, Chichimecas, and other cultures are secondary since there are more important civilizations to be covered first, IMO. Of course, if anyone wants to write about them, I'd love it.
I've drawn a line from mesoamerica to the south since they are similar in certain aspects. There could also be information added about the natives more to the north, but it would add a lot more area to be covered. Maybe if people are found to write about it and after the South is finished...
Oh, BTW, the natives were worse than the Spaniards. The Europeans just brought smallpox but the Indians gave them siffilis.
And if there is anything you can write about... please do
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If you can give me feedback, I would love it. So give it to me, please And if you find people with similar interests, you could try to persuade them to write something up
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Clio Posted Dec 27, 2000
Something to touch upon in discussion of Mesoamerican and SW US are the trade routes. An old friend of mine from college days is an archaelogist out of the Tempe/Pheonix, Arizona area who did his thesis work on the Hohoukum (sp?). I can recall during his research that in very old sites (i.e., neolithic, pre-Hopi, etc.) finding remains of parrort cages and quetzal feathers suggesting that the "Obsidian Route" (the "Silk Road" of Mesoamerica) existed far earlier than first believed.
Frood, my research into Mesoamerica was less than South America, but I will start looking at the stuff you've already worked on and provide any commentary I can. My better areas in all of these are architectural and ceramics.
Incas - I likely know more about them than the average person Will start sifting around my dusty memories and see what I can come up with. There'll be bridges and roads in it for sure, Incas had that in common with the Romans
Now that the holidays are over I'll start filtering thru ideas, read some of the already in progress items and get some idea which direction to head in.
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