A Conversation for Why Is a Raven Like a Writing-Desk? - Lewis Carroll

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Post 1

myk

Because they both need a perch; the raven to rest his wings; and the desk a perch for writers and their writing things-and both do sit, in deep thought awaiting inspiration or the sight of lunch.


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Post 2

Jabberwock


Nice one, if a little forced? smiley - coolsmiley - ok

Why is a raven like a writing desk? Take the negative route:
Neither is a fish
Neither is the Eiffel Tower
Neither have muesli for breakfast.ETC.

The possibilities if you cheat in this way, are endless,
as they say.

Meself I prefer the illogical answers such as Huxley's in the article.
Because there is a b in both, etc.

Jabsmiley - smiley


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Post 3

myk

because neither has three legs?smiley - smiley


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Post 4

Jabberwock


As I said, Lofts, there's an infinite number of negative answers - neither has three legs, neither is the Eiffel Tower, neither is human, neither has been to the moon etc. - you get the point,

Jabsmiley - smiley


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Post 5

Jabberwock


As I said, Lofts, there is an infinite number of negative answers, such as neither is the Eiffel Tower, neither has three legs (yours), neither is the Mona Lisa etc.etc.etc. You get the point,

Jabsmiley - smiley


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Post 6

Jabberwock


Sorry for the duplication, Lofty. It took so long to be added the first time that I thought I hadn't added it properly.

Jabsmiley - smiley


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Post 7

myk

no problem Jabsmiley - ok

Hey, i think i'm getting the hang of it now; if i think of anything better i will post it.smiley - smiley


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Post 8

Zugszwang

If a desk is made of wood, and a raven is a bird which makes it a relative of a duck, they both float! But so do small rocks... But rocks can count too right?


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Post 9

Jabberwock



You know, that's quite a good answer. But if there if there's an if involved, it doesn't really cover it. I like the nonsense answers in my article - A8134715. Carroll intended there to be no answer at all, of course, thus making it nonsense. It is from the MAD Hatter, after all!

Jabssmiley - smiley



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Post 10

myk

because niether do kung fu!


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Post 11

Jabberwock


See Post 5 Lofty...yours is one of the millions of negative answers! I've got a feeling it's sort-of cheating, it's so easy. You can argue about the cheating bit, but I invented the concept of negative answers, as stated in the article, so you'd be arguing with the inventor. You could still argue of course. Free country and all that.

Neither do judo either.

Neither play football.

Neither are mentioned by name in these two posts.


Jabssmiley - biggrin





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Post 12

myk

and you know what-before i saw your last post, i was thinkng; neither was a NINJA ;D

even if tables could neither can type smiley - laugh


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Post 13

myk


smiley - erm


even if tables could `talk` neither can type smiley - smiley


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Post 14

Jabberwock


Yeah - you've got it, Lofts, it's too easy that waysmiley - ok. You got it when the Ninja alternative struck you.

Sorry I said 'sort-of-cheating' - that probably sounded harsh - I just meant it was easy, and not convincing, although it takes some working out to see how easy it is.

Fact is, it's not worth knocking your brains out for. It's either too easy, once you get the negative approach -and you've reached that stage now, or it's impossible or virtually impossible to answer. Remember, it's not supposed to have an answer. In the book, it's meant to be pure nonsense.

And see post 5. If there's an 'if' involved, then that changes the riddle into something easier, and is out of order, really.

The whole thing is like spending hours on 'how long is a piece of string? There are answers to that too, but no convincing ones that I know of. (I'm not trying to get you to bust your brains on that one)

Hope this doesn't sound unfriendly. Really, I'm being friendly sharing all this, Lofty.

Jabssmiley - smiley




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Post 15

InfiniteImp


This is a negative one, but not quite in the same category as three legs and kung fu. On the other hand it seems 100% likely that somebody has already thought of it (though I couldn't find it - maybe I'm just unobservant. Anyway, here goes:

Because, in spite of anything you may have heard, neither has ever said the word, "Nevermore".


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Post 16

Jabberwock


Verse 8:

`Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou,' I said, `art sure no craven.
Ghastly grim and ancient raven wandering from the nightly shore -
Tell me what thy lordly name is on the Night's Plutonian shore!'
Quoth the raven, `Nevermore.'


Nice idea, but are you being overly pedantic or something, Infie? Like it never said, but quoth?

Jabssmiley - erm




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Post 17

Jabberwock



...or it was a different raven altogether. That may be highly probable. But in that case you have insufficient evidence, surely.

Jabssmiley - erm



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Post 18

InfiniteImp


Shucks. smiley - erm


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Post 19

InfiniteImp

OK Jabs, pick the bones out of this.

Back in the 19th century, when Lewis Carrol was writing, both ravens and writing desks had quills on them.

smiley - magic


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Post 20

InfiniteImp


And how about this.

The Queen owns both ravens and writing desks. Ravens in the Tower, and writing desks because she would, wouldn't she? She has to sit and read sign those state papers somewhere.

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