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Kaz Started conversation Aug 18, 2004
I gather you have unsubscribed from pcs latest journal entry because of what I said. Funnily enough I left the survivors group because of feeling unsafe. I posted this in reply, but of course you never got to see it, I hope it makes you feel better...
"Mikey, sorry it wasn't meant badly.
I just think sometimes that survivors find it difficult to work together. We have trust issues, and that makes it difficult to get on with others, even the survivors we know we should be able to get on with.
I think the fact that some of us managed to get through it together proves the survivors group had a great success. I know I cope so much better now having people like PC as a friend, and that couldn't happen without the group.
I just feel that the group could not have survived for long, which is a shame, but I was just exploring that I think it was bound to happen."
Hi from Kaz
Mikey the Humming Mouse - A3938628 Learn More About the Edited Guide! Posted Aug 18, 2004
Kaz, it certainly wasn't just your post -- a huge number of the posts in that thread, by a variety of different people, all had a lot of what seemed to me to be personal attacks -- attacks on people I am friends with, and in some cases they seemed to be attacks aimed at least in part at me, personally. As those who were with me on the various precursors to the hootoo survivors group know, that's about the biggest "hot button" thing for me there is -- nothing makes me feel more uncomfortable.
I am aware -- at least in part -- of the ways in which some of the people in that thread have been seriously hurt and wronged by other members of the defunct group, and I definitely realize that it's important to have a place to discuss that, and vent if need be, and try to heal and move on.
But the thread that led me to unsubscribe seemed to go considerably beyond that -- there was a lot of very cruel lashing out going on, and in many cases I felt like posters were intentionally inflicting pain. It's really hard for me to see people that I care about, and respect, acting in ways that cause a lot of pain for other people. Maybe this is wrong (or even selfish) of me, but I always want to think that the people I care about are people who would try their best to keep from adding more hurts to the world.
I've talked to PC about this before, but I really don't think she understood -- she seemed to see it more as a matter of "taking sides" between her and Krispy. In reality, I've said the same things to Krispy before, and have had to unsubscribe from some of his threads for the exact same reason.
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