A Conversation for The Five Elements in Relation to the Wiccan Religion
Not a pentagram
Sorcerer Started conversation Oct 25, 1999
A five-pointed star is not a pentagram, a pentagram is a five-pointed star inscribed in a circle or pentagon. This is a common mistake of wiccans and offends us true practitioners of magic.
Not a pentagram
The Jester (P. S. of Village Idiots, Muse of Comedians, Keeper of Jokes, Chef and Seraph of Bad Jokes) LUG @ A458228 Posted Oct 25, 1999
Also, I thought the fifth element was void. Maybe they thought differently in the Orient, I got this from the Book of Five Rings
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Not a pentagram
Sorcerer Posted Oct 25, 1999
The fifth element is known in different places as spirit, void and chaos. As stated in the article, it is the least understood of the elements. As not stated in the article, however, its colour is black.
The article also does not mention that many spells combine at least two of these elements. Most practitioners of magic, however, have a speciality in only one or two of them.
Not a pentagram
njan (afh) Posted Oct 26, 1999
I know that.. I'm not completely stupid. .. But it has got a circle around it on the page, hasn't it? *consults memory*
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bludragon, aka the Dragon Queen of Damogran Posted Oct 27, 1999
pentagram: A five-pointed star.
pentacle: a five-pointed star with a circle enscribed around it.
The wiccan PENTAGRAM is a five pointed star, aligned with the single point at the top. The four elements of earth, air, fire, water are represented. The upper point representing spirit is more of a 'force of the universe' kind of thing. It exists within us, and all around us, and throughout the universe. Pentacles are never inverted.
The circle around the pentagram completes the figure of a PENTACLE, and describes the wholeness of life.
Both the pentagram [5 pointed star] and the pentacle [star within a circle] are part of wiccan symbolism, ritual, and practice, as are the four elements, and the power/spirit of the universe.
blessed be
blu
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Charon Posted Oct 27, 1999
Thank you for pointing this out.
Although traditions vary from practitioner to practitioner, the term 'pentacle' in itself means five points enclosed in a circle.
Hence it's name.
A pentagram is just a five pointed star
~Charon
Not a pentagram
Researcher 235791 Posted Jul 24, 2003
As a Wiccan, I must inquire if you are making a distinction between Wiccans and true ones who practice magick?
Not a pentagram
njan (afh) Posted Jul 24, 2003
I think that was the intention of the comment in the post, although the user who posted it hasn't posted onsite for four years, so I'm guessing that your chance of a reply is somewhat negligable.
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Researcher 249667 Posted Oct 4, 2003
lol
that was a very off-hand comment indicating wiccans aren't true practisers (sp?) of magic(k).
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MorganaLaFay Posted Jan 1, 2004
We're arguing about words and definitions here rather than paying attention to the eternal qualities they describe.
This seems an awfully sterile and barren way to go on - might I suggest that Christianity has done precisely this for most of its existence, confusing the map with the territory in this way, and look where it got them!
Most of us (in this society) have been through one version or another of Christianity, on our way to a spirituality we chose for ourselves. We should be just that little bit more aware of the traps this religion has dug for itself, and have the ability to avoid them?
Incidentally, I've always associated the colour purple with the concept of Spirit, but if you perceive black where I perceive purple, and it works for you, I'm not going to stand here and say my perceptions are somehow "better" than yours. That's not the way it should work.
Many blessings on this conversation forum!
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- 1: Sorcerer (Oct 25, 1999)
- 2: The Jester (P. S. of Village Idiots, Muse of Comedians, Keeper of Jokes, Chef and Seraph of Bad Jokes) LUG @ A458228 (Oct 25, 1999)
- 3: Sorcerer (Oct 25, 1999)
- 4: njan (afh) (Oct 26, 1999)
- 5: bludragon, aka the Dragon Queen of Damogran (Oct 27, 1999)
- 6: Charon (Oct 27, 1999)
- 7: Researcher 235791 (Jul 24, 2003)
- 8: njan (afh) (Jul 24, 2003)
- 9: Researcher 249667 (Oct 4, 2003)
- 10: MorganaLaFay (Jan 1, 2004)
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