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Noohootoo

Post 1

Effers;England.


Having read some stuff tonight to do with noohootoo..I'm seriously worried if I'll fit in. It sounds very bureacratic to my mind. The people doing all the work are good people...but it just feels so alienating.

Oh well I'll find out soon enough if it's for me or not and there's something human left in it for outsider types like me.


Noohootoo

Post 2

Lanzababy - Guide Editor

you will fit in. I think you're a very intelligent woman. But these bureaucratic discussions have to happen so we can get the bits of paper sorted out.

Then we can get back to just having interesting conversations once more, such as the fact that I wanted to photograph the garden here today, but never got around to it. It's all wonderful smiley - magic so many flowers and bees. Actually quite overgrown, but I like it that way.

I'm trying not to let all the discussions get to me, else I won't sleep tonight, and tomorrow is my grandson's fourth birthday, so I need to try and look half alive tomorrow.

Sorry to come and dump all this here, but I needed to vent a bit myself. I hope you get some sleep!


Noohootoo

Post 3

Effers;England.


But everyone ignored me. I mean if it was me doing stuff like that and someone turned up who was basically useless in terms of having anything to contribute..but had a good heart..I'd be a bit friendly.

I was treated like an idiot.


Noohootoo

Post 4

Effers;England.


I think it's to do with my different cultural background. People just don't behave like that that I know or grew up with.

But then I generally feel more and more alienated here.


Noohootoo

Post 5

Mrs Zen

Think of it like the engineering that goes on to create a wonderful building; the maths just has to be got right and it's very very scary to look at, but when it IS done you get something amazing that lifts your heart like the roof of the courtyard of the British Museum.

What I want us to end up with is a site where people hardly notice the moderation because they know instinctively what works where. You're hot on culture, Effers. I really hope we get there carried along on the cultural wave we ALL ride. But underpinning it all there does need to be some blue-prints.

They say you should never see laws or saussages being made. We are currently doing our wurst.

B


Noohootoo

Post 6

Mrs Zen

Were you treated as an idiot? That thread moved SO fast (with long posts in it too) that we were all being ignored at times.

It's really important you stick up for freedom of spirit, playfulness and lightness of touch, because you are right, we could kill it with our grubby rules and regulations.

That's one of the reasons I'm arguing as hard as I can for a people being able to use their common sense supported by a fairly light framework and some guidelines, and not for a list of swearie words. Oh, no. Please, no. Not a list of swearie words.

B


Noohootoo

Post 7

Effers;England.


personally I'd prefer a down to earth hovel or mud hut.


Noohootoo

Post 8

Mrs Zen

I really hope we pull it off. I think we will. That the maths will be invisible and that we end up with something that appears to just.... work. I'm sincere, but of course I could be wrong. I do hope not.

Mud's nice. I like warm squelchy mud between my toes.


Noohootoo

Post 9

Effers;England.


It's because I'm fundamentally an artist. I think differently. Most of us are on tablets and having endless mood swing problems. We think upside down and inside out.

You have no idea how scary 'normality' is.

Of course it'll be great though. I'm just being really truthful with you...and I know you respect that.


Noohootoo

Post 10

Mrs Zen

I do. Well, not as much as you think I do. It's not that I respect truth, it's that I lack the wiring to tell lies.

But I do respect the nuanced things you are saying right now. And appreciate them.

Good night. Sleep well.

B


Noohootoo

Post 11

Effers;England.


Goodnight

That's where we're different then. I lack the wiring not to tell the truth.


Noohootoo

Post 12

Mrs Zen

Interesting difference. I can withhold the truth and keep my own counsel, I just can't actually lie.

Oh, look. Another word with a double-h. Who'd have thought. Look. Butterflies. smiley - orangebutterflysmiley - orangebutterflysmiley - orangebutterfly

B


Noohootoo

Post 13

Effers;England.


I'm going to do everything I can in future to be as rational and objective as possible. Facts will be my new passion here now.

No more patterns.


Noohootoo

Post 14

Effers;England.


Obviously only on noohootoo

In every other area of my life i'll stay with patterns and relationships.

It'll be an interesting kind of 'schizophrenia'


Noohootoo

Post 15

Effers;England.


smiley - sigh It all started so optimistically thanks to Mrs Zen's excellent thread..now already gone downhill thanks to KBs thread.

Oh well I knew it couldn't last. Back to pessimism.


Noohootoo

Post 16

Effers;England.


Oh it goes from bad to worse. A thread with the word 'moderation' I think mentioned around 3 times in the OP.

I am threatened with yikesing on the grounds of being offtopic by talking
about moderation but in *context* that it shouldn't be undermined by the OP.

And it gets hidden.

Presumably the person threatening me was the one who yikesed.

smiley - laugh I wonder what their role is in the noohoo?


Noohootoo

Post 17

Effers;England.


Am leaving for a while.


Noohootoo

Post 18

Mrs Zen

Stay safe, Effers. And if you can't find us when you get back, then email Z at h2g2communityconsortium at gmail dot com.

Make a note of that email.

Also http://www.h2g2.com should always find the site.

smiley - hug

Ben


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