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Researcher 178815 Posted Apr 7, 2004
No, you misunderstand.
Yikesing a post regardless of who seems to be winning/have won an argument, is a sign that that particular post broke the <./>HouseRules</.>. It worries me as to h2g2's future when there are an increasing number like you about the site, who go against the House Rules to get their point across, because they can't win doing it verbally: like everybody else.
So, can you tell me where this 'I can't come up with a decent counter-argument, but instead I'll spam your page and max out the h2g2/BBCi servers in the process, which will put everyone at a disadvantage, including myself, but I don't care because that's how I win arguments' mentality comes from? And does it come from sheer lack of intellectual capacity to construct a valid verbal argument? Really, I'm asking seriously.
I think, you poor thing, that you need to be reminded of what an argument is. It is, as Monty Python would have it, "an intellectual process[, ...] a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition." Consider this.
Person A says: "I don't like X Politician because I don't agree with his policies."
Person B punches Person A square in the face because he can't express himself verbally, but is very, very skilled in doing so physically.
When in fact, Person B should have just said something to the contrary of Person A's point, to make a point of why they follow X Politician and/or don't mind his policies. Or in fact, just agreed and said 'I agree with you on that one, Person A'; In such a case, no argument is necessary and there is a mutual state of agreement between Persons A and B on the policies of Politician X.
Do you see how it works? Regardless of who has won the 'argument', those posts still stand, and they will be there for the whole life of h2g2. It's not like a chatroom where messages disappear after at the very most, a day, so there is still a need to get those messages removed from view if they contavene the <./>HouseRules</.> or are otherwise likely to cause offence.
Say, five years from now, the Queen could be invited to assess the BBC's need to have an online prescence, and She is assessing the DNA Community structure of sites, and comes across a post saying, for instance, 'Death to the Monarchy'. Now, if this were my own opinion and I posted that on site, that would definitely be Yikesed and pulled off-site. That's why the feature is there. Not to get one over on the other party when you're failing in an argument. To keep everything in line with, (yes, I AM going to place a link to them again) the <./>HouseRules</.>.
And that's why you were Yikesed by me. Yikesing unnecessarily to hide someone's post whom you don't like or disagree with wastes time and h2g2 resources, and I respect those and would never Yikes any of your posts unless I believed them to be offensive or otherwise breaking the <./>HouseRules</.>. If you were Yikesed, you deserved it, is the end message. It's not an argument winning tool.
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Researcher 178815 Posted Apr 7, 2004
My previous one was rather a long post. I do wonder if you even bothered to read it.
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creachy Posted Apr 7, 2004
I yikesed your post too BB I thought the editors/moderators would be interested in your online confession. They have chosen to leave your post on the site as they have deemed it ok for viewing, but I should think they found it's content very interesting
Despite my lack of respect for aka and his recent actions, I cannot condone the breaking of the <./>HouseRules</.> in such a manner, as they are there to ensure this site remains a properly run community. I managed to argue with aka without getting yikesed, and so did many others. Perhaps you should take a leaf out of our books and learn to reply with a structured criticism, rather than be childish.
But anyway, seeing as you unsubscribed and left this thread 2 or 3 times now, none of this will probably get through to you.
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Researcher 178815 Posted Apr 7, 2004
Nah, BB also confessed to spamming my page before, as both 'THE FISH' and as his current identity. I think it just goes a fair way to show his character type.
And it seems BB is somewhat hypocritical - he's slammed users of the Yikes function of getting an easy route to winning an argument by Yikesing the opposition's posts (see post 61), yet whenever the heat gets too hot for him he just unsubscribes.
For instance, I'm still waiting for a reply as to where the mentality to spam someone's userspace comes from, in the gaping hole left by the lack of a valid argument. But rather than discuss things, BB seems to just run away childishly when things get rather serious, and retreat to the sheltered home of the secluded hugfest chat areas of the site.
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Saturnine Posted Apr 7, 2004
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