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UK Iraq withdrawal?
Arnie Appleaide - Inspector General of the Defenders of Freedom Posted Oct 18, 2006
THat's fair, except that the Iraq body count website mis-represented what was in the report. To me, that suggests binning their criticism. Or just taking it with a pound of salt.
UK Iraq withdrawal?
BouncyBitInTheMiddle Posted Oct 18, 2006
No Arnie, people on here misunderstood the Iraq Body Count website. They explained where they were getting their numbers from on that page, albeit rather clumsily.
UK Iraq withdrawal?
Arnie Appleaide - Inspector General of the Defenders of Freedom Posted Oct 18, 2006
OK - me too, I mis understood where they got their numbers from.
So were they explaining where they got their numbers from in a clumsy manner, or were they deliberately obsfucating?
UK Iraq withdrawal?
BouncyBitInTheMiddle Posted Oct 18, 2006
"based on the different proportions of weaponry reported in Table 4 of the Lancet paper," is the misleading phrase I think. I'd go with cock-up theory and call it poor writing. This is why its a good idea to proof-read a piece out loud.
Of course, regardless of Iraq Body Count's credibility or otherwise, their argument is still there: would you expect an equivalent amount number of injuries to the number of deaths (I suppose I would), and is it then suspect that these expected injuries aren't in hospital records (I dunno?)?
UK Iraq withdrawal?
Dogster Posted Oct 19, 2006
I have written a relatively long post on my blog giving all my thoughts about this. I can repost it in this conversation if anyone would like? Otherwise take a look at it on my blog:
http://thesamovar.wordpress.com/2006/10/19/that-lancet-report/
UK Iraq withdrawal?
DA ; Simply Vicky: Don't get pithy with me! Posted Oct 20, 2006
<<"Some 800,000 or more Iraqis suffered blast wounds and other serious conflict-related injuries in the past two years, but less than a tenth of them received any kind of hospital treatment;"
...
" If these assertions are true, they further imply:
* bizarre and self-destructive behaviour on the part of all but a small minority of 800,000 injured, mostly non-combatant, Iraqis;">>
Which could simply reflect a lack of access to hospitals, rather than self-destructive behaviour!
Honestly!
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