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Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Started conversation Oct 20, 1999
"This statement is false."
Is that true, or false?
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Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den Posted Oct 20, 1999
Neither, whats the question ?
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Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Oct 20, 1999
I don't know, I was hoping someone could tell me!
If "This statement is false" is true, then the statement is false, so it can't be true.
However, if "This statement is false" is false, then the statement is true, and we've already established that it can't be true, therefore it can't be false either!
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Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den Posted Oct 20, 1999
......Doh!!!!..........
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Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Oct 20, 1999
Well said, that man!
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Oct 21, 1999
Same kind of statement:
"This sentence is about Vibenstein."
-Lil
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Mr Sapsea Posted Oct 21, 1999
isn't it a bit different?
Your sentence is self-fullfilling?
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Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den Posted Oct 21, 1999
Hasn't he always been "self-fullfilling" ?
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Mr Sapsea Posted Oct 21, 1999
I think I'll leave EV to answer that
^^^
hey, thats another one!
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Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den Posted Oct 21, 1999
He's not speaking today....
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Mr Sapsea Posted Oct 21, 1999
poke someone hard enough and they always make a squeal
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Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence Posted Oct 22, 1999
Technically speaking, the statement
"This sentence is about Vibenstein"
is self-referential. Logically, it is
incapable of being true or false.
Think of it as a pointer.
So there. 
Lil
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Mr Sapsea Posted Oct 22, 1999
hmm...ok, so what if
I said
"This sentence is not about Vibenstein"?
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Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Oct 22, 1999
We'd kick your head in. 
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Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den Posted Oct 22, 1999
*leans over and picks up stick*
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Mr Sapsea Posted Oct 22, 1999
phew..conversation returns to a more comfortable level!
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Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den Posted Oct 22, 1999
*picks up penknife and starts whittling a really sharp point on stick*
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Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) Posted Oct 22, 1999
Careful, Sid... you'll have someone's eye out with that!
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- 1: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Oct 20, 1999)
- 2: Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den (Oct 20, 1999)
- 3: Mr Sapsea (Oct 20, 1999)
- 4: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Oct 20, 1999)
- 5: Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den (Oct 20, 1999)
- 6: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Oct 20, 1999)
- 7: Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence (Oct 21, 1999)
- 8: Mr Sapsea (Oct 21, 1999)
- 9: Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den (Oct 21, 1999)
- 10: Mr Sapsea (Oct 21, 1999)
- 11: Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den (Oct 21, 1999)
- 12: Mr Sapsea (Oct 21, 1999)
- 13: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Oct 21, 1999)
- 14: Asteroid Lil - Offstage Presence (Oct 22, 1999)
- 15: Mr Sapsea (Oct 22, 1999)
- 16: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Oct 22, 1999)
- 17: Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den (Oct 22, 1999)
- 18: Mr Sapsea (Oct 22, 1999)
- 19: Sidney Kidney, AKA Gruby Ben, friend of Dirty Den (Oct 22, 1999)
- 20: Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.) (Oct 22, 1999)
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