A Conversation for The Children of James I Of England - VI Of Scotland

A87794400 - Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart

Post 21

bobstafford

Good enough yet smiley - laugh


A87794400 - Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart

Post 22

Phoenician Trader

I might change the number of changes you use convey the sense of change in the opening sentence.

As for the rest, I am still reading it and will come back to it a bit later today.

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Post 23

bobstafford

Thanks for that all done smiley - smiley


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Post 24

bobstafford

Any comments smiley - smiley


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Post 25

Phoenician Trader

Yup - I have some.

The content is great (the first sentence still contains the word "change" three times) but the headers didn't lead me through the content as well as they might.

Sometimes the headings are the names of the children and sometimes they are the names of the parents. I think they could usefully be more explicit (say "Children of James IV and Anne") and more consistent. Then the paragraphs about the children ("Henry, Prince of Wales", "Elizabeth", "Charles, Prince of Wales") can have their own idiom. I did initially associate the final paragraphs about Charles with the second of Elizabeth's children, not the fourth of Anne and Jame's. The text made it clear (again, nicely done) but it did take two readings.

The lists of children (which are generally really well done: short and informative) usually lead with the name of the child in bold and then the text, except for the first two.

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A87794400 - Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart

Post 26

bobstafford

Thanks for the last comments All taken care of any more comments smiley - cheers


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Post 27

bobstafford

These are all stand alone entries however I feel that they should be linked in some way.
Originally inspired by
The Life Of Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots A21605320


James Ist, Comes To The English Throne A87793960
George Villiers The Duke of Buckingham A87794419
Charles At The Court Of Spain A87794428
Charles At The Court Of France - Marriage and Intrigue A87794437
Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart A87794400

This is planned to be the last in the series
Charles The First Of England - Marriage And War A87797056

This is a related pair of postscript entries that follow the course of the Stewart dynasty and in their own way inspired the James and Charles Entries

Oliver Cromwell: Lord Protector of the Commonwealth A45871040
The 1689 Siege Of Derry A45561134

Any ideas



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Post 28

bobstafford

NB
Had I thought that I would get this far I would have created university group.


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Post 29

bobstafford

Any comments please smiley - smiley


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Post 30

bobstafford

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A87794400 - Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart

Post 31

Bluebottle

Entry: Henry Elizabeth and Charles Stuart - A87794400
Author: bobstafford - U3151547

I've had a read through and had another think. Here are my suggestions, for you to consider:

I think I'd avoid having the first footnote in the opening sentence, as this is footnote heavy and too many footnotes to begin with might put readers off. Maybe ''James VI of Scotland (later James I of England)'.

Perhaps also footnotes 4 and 8 can be included in the text. Footnote 2 could become part of the Margaret bit, such as:

'Margaret Stuart Born 24th December 1598, though she joined Elizabeth in the care of Lord and Lady Livingstone at Linlithgow Palace, she died March 1600 aged only 2 years 2 months.'

Similarly, footnote 8 could become a paragraph in its own right.

There seems to be a contradiction in the text that needs explaining. First you say:
'but the preference was for a Protestant princess, and Anne was perfect'
So we get the impression that Anne is a perfect Protestant princess. Shortly after that, we read:
'James worried about Anne's tendency toward Catholic faith. James a staunch Protestant could not allow the boy's mother to make a Catholic out of Henry'
Eh? When did Anne become Catholic? Or was she not the perfect, perky, Protestant princess we were led to believe?

If so, mention this earlier, perhaps after the sentence 'It sounds easy to choose a bride from the European royal houses, but the preference was for a Protestant princess, and Anne was perfect.' By opening with 'it sounds easy... but' - the reader is led to expect an unforeseen difficulty, but then there doesn't seem to be one, what with Anne being perfect. But if Anne only appeared to be Protestant but secretly is Catholic after all, the sentence makes sense and explains James' later worries. Something like ' the preference was for a Protestant princess, and though Anne appeared perfect, she secretly followed the Catholic faith / later converted to Catholicism'.

You also mention 'some of the ridiculous inbred creatures of today' which seems a little harsh if not backed up. I know that animal charities such as the RSCPA feel that some pedigree dog breeds are bred to perpetuate appearance while sacrificing the animals' health - are poodles one of the breeds affected? If so, I'd want to see a footnote explaining that so we know that 'ridiculous inbred creatures' is not merely a personal opinion.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/dogs/health/pedigreedogs

Oh, and I still think that

'It started simply with King James VI of Scotland1 who had chosen for his wife, Princess Anne of Denmark, younger daughter of the Protestant King Frederick II.'

Would read better as 'King James VI of Scotland (later also James I of England) chose to marry Princess Anne of Denmark, the younger daughter of the Protestant King Frederick II.'

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A87794400 - Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart

Post 32

bobstafford

Thanks BB Good points all sorted please comment smiley - ok


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Post 33

bobstafford

PS. are poodles one of the breeds affected?

Yes it was a dog put against boar and wolf the lions main of hair was to protect the throat from tusks and teeth. Affected yes the breed has been all but destroyed.


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Post 34

Bluebottle

I've no more comments with this one, looks good to me.

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Post 35

bobstafford

Thanks for the helpful comments smiley - cheers


A87794400 - Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart

Post 36

Bluebottle

Still looks good.smiley - smiley

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A87794400 - Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart

Post 37

Bluebottle

You still have both the original and re-written versions of your introduction. You should delete the opening paragraph ' King James VI of Scotland (later also James I of England) chose to marry Princess Anne of Denmark, the younger daughter of the Protestant King Frederick II' as you say this all in the next paragraph.

Maybe you could split up this sentence into two: ' The couple stayed at Elsinore and Copenhagen for some weeks as gusts of Anne's father Frederick, travelling by sea to Scotland together they arrived on 1st May 1590.'
It is possibly unclear whether they were still with Frederick when they travelled to Scotland.

I also think perhaps it would read better if you moved the sentence about James and Anne's ages at the time of the wedding to the paragraph in which the wedding is described. Something like:
'The couple were formally married in Oslo at the Bishop's Palace in November 1589. James was 23 and Anne only 14, born 12 December, 1574 she was one month short of her 15th birthday.'

What do you think?

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A87794400 - Henry, Elizabeth and Charles Stuart

Post 38

bobstafford

Thanks BB adjusted as recommended smiley - cheers


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Post 39

ITIWBS

Post immediately above, 'gusts' should be 'guests'.

Its still that way in the text.


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Post 40

Gnomon - time to move on

Hi bob.

You use both Stuart and Stewart in this. Did the family use both spellings?


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