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I'm not really here Posted Oct 27, 2001
Yes, it makes more sense. Still above my head by a yard or two, but I don't have that feeling of as I read now.
Although am I going to be alone if I say that I'd like to see a footnote explaining existentialism cos that's still left me a bit baffled.
The entry also looks neater now.
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Oct 27, 2001
Sorry for that oversight and thanks for pointing it out. But can you tell me how to do footnotes or where I can find out how? Can't find them anywhere
grime
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taliesin Posted Oct 27, 2001
Add your footnote just after whatever you are footnoting..
Enclose the footnote between the footnote tags, like this:
this is the footnote
I used one footnote on my personal page, so you can examine the code for it if you like, by replacing the 'U' in my user number with the word, 'testuserpage'
CUL8R
And thanks once again, Mina
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taliesin Posted Oct 27, 2001
Oh, and I noticed a typo... 'B;lack' instead of 'Black', as in 'Black Forest'
Also, you capitalise the words, 'inauthentic' and 'authentic', intending, I suspect, to emphasise them. This is a stylistic preference, but you may want to merely use single quote marks instead..
On the whole, the article now reads much better, and you have clarified the two aspects of 'the Great Question:'
The major aspect -- that existence exists at all is a miracle, and the minor aspect -- that existence seems to be structured in the way that it is..
Now if you can just explain existentialism in a short footnote...
..
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Oct 27, 2001
Hi Taliesin,
Many thanks for your last few postings, which have been extremely helpful in getting my head back together and encouraging me to return to the task of getting the Entry more understandable.
Unfortunately, I can't improve the Entry at the moment as the 'Edit Entry' button has refused to work on that page, (it works on my Home Page OK)
I'll have to leave it a bit and try later. I may have to move it to a new page.
Another 2 queries though - just where do I 'test' your Page to get at the code? And how are superscript numbers coded in for footnotes?
CU soon,
Grime
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taliesin Posted Oct 27, 2001
A very useful trick for learning GML coding:
just replace the 'U' in the address for a personal page -- http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/U167550
With the word 'testuserpage', like this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/testuserpage167550
As you can see, this becomes a valid link, and when you 'go' there, the system analyses the code, and displays it for you..
A simlar trick works for Guide Articles. Replace the 'A' with the word, 'test'
As for footnote superscript numbers, the system puts them in automatically, and incrementally.
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Oct 28, 2001
Hi Tal, Mina, Frogbit, John-the-Gardener, Shorn Canary and Hoovooloo.
I've changed the entry, mostly thanks to Tal and Mina recently (and because it was chucked out by the Editors the first time round - see Post no.48).
Many thanks to Tal in particular tonight. Can you take a look?
If I move it back to Peer Review, Tal, will the thread come with it? I'm thinking of the confusion of 2 threads with nearly the same name.
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taliesin Posted Oct 28, 2001
Hmm. Good question.. I'll have to ask someone more knowledgeable than I about such matters..... On the bright side, the time this has spent in PR will be taken into account.. And if a new thread is required, you can always include a reference to this thread..
Mina? Mina, are you there??
Here's some ... that always seems to work...
And hey, I liked the bit about girls wearing black clothes and makeup. I wonder if those 'punky' types realized they were making an Existentialist statement...
BTW, just a few minor points you could clear up whilst waiting..
In the first footnote:
'focussing on the isolation of human beings as existents in a meaningless and therefore absurd universe'
I don't understand the term, 'existents'. Perhaps this word is not even required?? -- 'focussing on the isolation of human beings in a meaningless and therefore absurd universe'
A typo in footnote #3, 'and ithe blankness'
And the word 'Authentic' is still capitalised..
I'll get back to you on the moving this thread back into PR, unless dear Mina helps out first..
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Oct 28, 2001
Hi Tal,
About the girls...
It was mainly a Paris Left-Bank phenomenon, at least at the start, centred on Jean-Paul Sartre, intellectual cafes (where he actually did write most of his books) and the Sorbonne. So I think most of them did understand the philosophy. The black eye-shadow and sometimes black lipstick were also meant to show you were an intellectual, different from the 'inauthentic' masses. Sartre was much harder on the inauthentic than Heidegger was.
I once saw an old tape of Juliette Greco, singer of intellectual songs, on the TV. She was in existentialist clothes, make up, (face made to look very white too) and long black hair and she looked absolutely stunning. Must have been a deep shock to the BBC at the time! There's also a scene, in Gigi(?) which satirises them. They look great to me.
Grime
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taliesin Posted Oct 28, 2001
Me, too I was actually referring to the more recent 'Punk Rocker' styles of the late 1980s, in which many girls seemed to employ similar monochrome makeup, black clothes, etc... It can be either very attractive or very , depending on how well the girl carries it off..
I can't locate any other Scouts on site at the moment, so I'm posting the thread reinstatement query to the Scout forum... it may take a few hours to get a reply.. Hang in there...
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Oct 29, 2001
Goths too, currently. Each an expression of alienation (a favourite Existentialist concept, though originally Marx's), but not necessarily knowing why.
grime
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taliesin Posted Oct 29, 2001
'Rebels without a clue', so to speak
Anyway, it seems you must begin a new thread..
Look on the bright side, you get to the head of the line, and if anyone asks awkward questions you can distract them by referring them to this thread...
... and this time when someone recommends it, I am sure it will stick!
I'll be watching, too...
Now let's have an or three, shall we?
Tal
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I'm not really here Posted Oct 29, 2001
Sorry I wasn't here when you were both calling for me. I was at the Dutch meet up. It seems you have it all sorted out now, is there a new PR thread?
You could put a link to this thread on there if you don't want this one to be missed out.
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Oct 29, 2001
Thanks, Mina. Hope you had a great time over there. I think we've sorted it out now, thanks. The Entry has been submitted to Peer Review again, with the thread 'Heidegger's Ultimate Question - a short guide' and a link to this one. If you'd like to join the new Review thread, you'd be very welcome.
Grime
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I'm not really here Posted Oct 29, 2001
I think my work here is done.
I'm glad I could help you out, it made me happy. I have a couple of entries to write for myself now.
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Grimethorpe2k1 Posted Oct 29, 2001
Many thanks, Mina
I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THIS THREAD NOW, IN FAVOUR OF THE NEW THREAD IN PEER REVIEW. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO'S HELPED OUT HERE, AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU IN THE NEW THREAD.
Grime
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