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swl Started conversation Sep 16, 2013
I neither know nor care about the background to this, but can we get the people on pre-mod off pre-mod please? I'm getting a bit fed up of hidden posts and disrupted threads.
Thank you.
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Pastey Posted Sep 16, 2013
I agree! I'd love for there to be no one on premod.
Unfortunately people keep breaking the rules, and premod follows a suspension to try and make sure they stay within the rules on their return.
It does lead to some thread disruption, and is a very visible sign of moderation in action though I agree.
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Peanut Posted Sep 16, 2013
it is very visible and does seem a very long time on pre mod
at least everyone is getting into the swing of subject titles...
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U14993989 Posted Sep 16, 2013
People should be offered carrots not sticks / punishments with regard to perceived rule breaking. Personally a bit of brain washing is my preferred solution to getting people to obey rules: "now listen to me, listen to me, are you listening"?
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Peanut Posted Sep 16, 2013
yes swl, I am sure you have across them
Pastey who is they?
SA, there are carrots, will you grate them into a salad or something
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Pastey Posted Sep 16, 2013
"They" are the people with the extremely long arms that go around at twilight turning on the streetlights.
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swl Posted Sep 16, 2013
The thing is, "their" punishment is quite irritating to the community as a whole. Threads are disrupted, topics hidden and so on, in such a way that the rest of us have to suffer the consequences of their misdemeanour. Why not suspend accounts for progressively longer periods? This would cause less disruption to the community and lessen the load on the mods, no?
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Pastey Posted Sep 16, 2013
Accounts are suspended for progressively longer periods.
It's not quite irritating, it's *very* irritating. Still, if they stopped breaking the rules then we'd not have this issue.
Thankfully premod is actually rarely used. We have a lot of users visiting the site, I still keep coming across areas and researchers happily getting along with chatting and writing Guide entries. The number of times that any form of suspension or moderation has to be applied is really rather small.
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U14993989 Posted Sep 16, 2013
>> It's not quite irritating, it's *very* irritating. << >> to the community <<
I agree with swl - the issue is that the punishment extends to the community, disrupting community activity (threads) ... so it's like cutting one's nose off to spite the face. Can I make a suggestion - under the QOTD there should be a wall of shame: where the member is named & shamed (name plus rule infraction) ... I find the use of humiliation is an underused weapon in the "War on Rule Breakers".
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Peanut Posted Sep 16, 2013
Oh, I don't see so many 'actively using the site' that also 'requires the ratio of modding'
I'm sure that on a day to day level the site is perfectly readable??
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Pastey Posted Sep 16, 2013
Sorry Peanut, exactly where are you quoting: 'requires the ratio of modding' from?
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Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Sep 16, 2013
Just a thought
Could it be possible to hide the message without changing the title - unless, of course, the title itself violates the rules?
This would allow the post to be hidden without disrupting the rest of us
A list of the moderations for the last week or month might be useful, ie
2 Excessive postings
1 topic drift in Peer Review
4 Inappropriate language
or something similar, even without naming names it might help highlight and remind us what we shouldn't do.
F S
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Pastey Posted Sep 16, 2013
At the moment it's not possible I'm afraid. We certainly want to, but we currently can't.
All we can do at the moment is to wait until the post is displayed and see who it is who's on premod and caused the disruption.
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Pastey Posted Sep 16, 2013
Ah, it's just that it's in quote marks next to something you're quoting from me
People reading it could pick it up out of context and believe that I might have said that, which I didn't
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