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Gunther Grass and the SS (German centric!)

Post 21

swl

ooh, cutting smiley - laugh


Gunther Grass and the SS (German centric!)

Post 22

BouncyBitInTheMiddle

Do we really need more education about WWII? It was a long time ago, and there were a lot of nasty wars in that century.


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Post 23

Sho - employed again!

Well, Otto, he does sort of set himself up as a moral compass, though. So he can expect flak.

For me? I don't particularly care, one way or the other. I'm quite fed up of seeing him on the papers.


Gunther Grass and the SS (German centric!)

Post 24

toybox

Well, just because of his past doesn't mean that he shouldn't be believed. If he had announced earlier in his life that he had enrolled in the SS, maybe people wouldn't have wanted to listen to him at all no matter what he said. Or they would have listened but tried to interpret everything through the filter of his past.

If I'm not mistaken that's what Otto described in A800425 as the 'hypocrisy fallacy'.

smiley - schooloffish


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Post 25

aka Bel - A87832164

I agree with you Toy Box, I can imagine that these were the reasons for his silence. And let's be honest, did the pope tell people that he was in HJ or something ? Did the bishops who elected him know ? And id so, did they care ?


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Post 26

Sho - employed again!

good points both.

It's still annoying though. Like those politicians who are always blithering along about how family friendly etc. They often turn out to like families so much they have two.


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Post 27

aka Bel - A87832164

Really ? smiley - bigeyes Are you talking about anybody specific here ?


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Post 28

Sho - employed again!

nah, mostly Tory politicians from 80s and 90s UK


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Post 29

Otto Fisch ("Stop analysing Strava.... and cut your hedge")


Ah, the hypocrisy fallacy. Exactly so.


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