A Conversation for Falkirk, Scotland, UK

popular does not equal good

Post 1

Necro (Patron Daemon of Patron Saints)

within the cointext of music, popular doesn't mean good. oh no. for example, look at the recent explosion of girl groups and boy bands. how many of their lyrics are deep and meaningful? how many of them construct wonderous harmonies and haunting melodies with which to make us stare at blank walls in amazement? i'll save you the millisecond it should take you to come to the only concievable answer to those questions. NONE.

for all the hype and publicity, they are sh*t. really sh*t. but then, everyone knows this. describing arab strap as 'pop' music is sacrelige. They are post-rock indie, and pretty damn wonderful.

thankyou. rant over.


popular does not equal good

Post 2

Thunderguts

As an avid fan of Arab Strap and in essence all "good" music(good meaning in this context something that agrees with my taste which by the way I believe to be pretty damn good) I must agree with the last writers statement. Interestingly enough I nvere suspected bingo could produce such a chaos effect as that little butterfly in new york, or was it in sydney?
As an addition to the pop music debate I might add that according to my tastes almost everything scottish (in music terms) seems to be damned by the fact that it's incredibly good. Take for example Belle And Sebastian. They are wonderful. Mogwai, they are cool and take a pish at pop music. Fridge, they're pretty strange, but good, talented. Ganger, impressive...the list goes on.

I say hurrah for Arab Strap not being pop music. But they should be popular. Who can deny the art in lyrics such as: "I told you with me around you'll never come to harm, then you took a fork and stabbed yourself in the arm."(I don't have the exact lyrics in front of me so I'm not sure if they're absolutely correct, but the meaning is there)

Wait a minute, aren't we supposed to be talking about some obscure place in the highlands? Bugger that...I live in an obscure country, Iceland, so I don't have sympathy for the tiny.

well...that's all for now.

Lord Humphrey 'Thunderguts' Dagenhurt


popular does not equal good

Post 3

Thunderguts

As an avid fan of Arab Strap and in essence all "good" music(good meaning in this context something that agrees with my taste which by the way I believe to be pretty damn good) I must agree with the last writers statement. Interestingly enough I nvere suspected bingo could produce such a chaos effect as that little butterfly in new york, or was it in sydney?
As an addition to the pop music debate I might add that according to my tastes almost everything scottish (in music terms) seems to be damned by the fact that it's incredibly good. Take for example Belle And Sebastian. They are wonderful. Mogwai, they are cool and take a pish at pop music. Fridge, they're pretty strange, but good, talented. Ganger, impressive...the list goes on.

I say hurrah for Arab Strap not being pop music. But they should be popular. Who can deny the art in lyrics such as: "I told you with me around you'll never come to harm, then you took a fork and stabbed yourself in the arm."(I don't have the exact lyrics in front of me so I'm not sure if they're absolutely correct, but the meaning is there)

Wait a minute, aren't we supposed to be talking about some obscure place in the highlands? Bugger that...I live in an obscure country, Iceland, so I don't have sympathy for the tiny.

well...that's all for now.

Lord Humphrey 'Thunderguts' Dagenhurt


popular does not equal good

Post 4

Necro (Patron Daemon of Patron Saints)

why reply twice? jeez, you sure are some dumb geyser. please forgive the atroshus pun. i accept full responsability and am ready for the firing squad.

but seriously though, your taste in music is exceptional. maybe we can team up to deflect the inevitable insults from spicegirls fans. god, they're a vindictive bunch...


popular does not equal good

Post 5

Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.)

*clears throat noisily* "Some obscure place in the highlands"?


Oh, and...

Post 6

Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.)

...if you follow the link to the article on Pop Music, you'll see that this is exactly my point.


Please accept my heartfelt apologies...

Post 7

Necro (Patron Daemon of Patron Saints)

i hadn't read it. still, nice to know that i haven't had any disagreements with me yet. oh, and i agree...falkirk is obscure. oh sorry, is that where you come from?

belle and sebastian are cool, mind, you starnge icelandic person.


Apology accepted...

Post 8

Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.)

I'm not saying it's not obscure, just that it's not in the highlands! smiley - smiley


Geography is not my strongpoint...

Post 9

Necro (Patron Daemon of Patron Saints)

Where is it then? Aside from Scotland. Keep your kilt on. bloody skirt-wearin' jessies...


Geography is not my strongpoint...

Post 10

Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.)

Ahem - "Cleverly situated halfway between Glasgow and Edinburgh in central Scotland..." Have you read this article or what?


Scotland

Post 11

Thunderguts

I am sending this to apologize for calling all of Scotland 'The Highlands', but who can blame me?

Aside from that, I like Scotland, I in fact love it. I've never been, but still I feel that there is some kind of a whatcamaycallit which beckons me to it's shores. I in fact want to live there and am planning on studying there some time. I absolutely adore it.
(Do I need to add more?)
Actually Iceland and Scotland are really alike. We even have our own version of haggis which we call 'slátur'.

Well aside from that. I'm not really strange, just a bit peculiar.

Lord Humphrey


Get tae Falkirk

Post 12

Cardinal Fang

Wasn't there a pub called "The Whole in the Wall"


Get tae Falkirk

Post 13

Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.)

Are you thinking of "Behind The Wall"? It really is a pub, by the way, not just a group of winos drinking behind a wall.


Winos

Post 14

Necro (Patron Daemon of Patron Saints)

I thought that was the general idea of a Scottish pub...smiley - fishsmiley - fishsmiley - fishsmiley - fish


Winos

Post 15

Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.)

Yeah, but you can't just do it behind a wall, you have to do it indoors because of the rain.


Get tae Falkirk

Post 16

Cardinal Fang

Thankyou for correcting my clouded over memory. When I was a student I lived in the area for 18 months as I had a placement at ICI. When I first hit Falkirk, the old shopping centre was just closing down, and when I left they had just started building the new one in its place. A good many pubs were visited, and as you can tell from my first entry I've forgotten their names. I do remember that you only had to pay £1 to get into the cinema.

I was back in the area a few months ago as I was looking at some new houses which were £50K cheaper than the same build in Edinburgh. Maybe one day I'll return


Get tae Falkirk

Post 17

Blue Dot

The "Hole in the Wall", is a pub in Linlithgow, 7 miles East of Falkirk.

Having lived in both Linlithgow and near Falkirk I am familiar with both drinking establishments and the need to be absolutely clear in ones mind as to which one you direct the taxi to.


Cumfy - Bo-ness ya .

Post 18

Big Joe (just joe on jupiter)

'Get tae Falkirk' - a friendly greeting!
Anyone familiar with
q: cumfy?
a: Aye - Bo-ness ya b******!
or is that a distorted flashback from my Laurieston youth


Cumfy - Bo-ness ya .

Post 19

Dr E Vibenstein (You know it is, it really is.)

Cumfy Laurieston?


Cumfy - Bo-ness ya .

Post 20

Big Joe (just joe on jupiter)

Yoo talkin tae me or chewin a brick. pal?
Sorry - lapsed into the vernacular again. Yes Laurieston, boy, man and freak. You from round there, too ?


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