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Post 1021

SashaQ - happysad - Editor

Yes - I'm out for lunch on Saturday and Sunday, so hopefully the food will be good.

I presume you saw Red Dwarf last night - I did, and thought they were on good form for this new series smiley - ok


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Post 1022

Bluebottle

I did – a great, strong start.smiley - ok Part of me started thinking, 'I wonder if I could write an entry about all the historical people/eras mentioned in 'Red Dwarf'?' That's the third appearance of a Hitler, plus the Second World War is frequently mentioned in other episodes…

Recently I've discovered that the more Narnia I read, the more I appreciate JRR Tolkien...

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Post 1023

SashaQ - happysad - Editor

That would be an interestingly unusual angle on Red Dwarf if you could do it... smiley - ok

Lord of the Rings vs Narnia always fascinates me, as people seem to tend to be fans of one or the other and rarely both - I couldn't get on with JRR Tolkien at all, but I devoured CS Lewis novels when I was a child...

The food on Saturday was OK - quite a number of people commented that the soup was too salty, and the chocolate cheesecake wouldn't have won any prizes on The Great British Bake Off but it was not bad overall, as the company was good smiley - biggrin Lunch on Sunday was up to the usual high standard, so that made up for things smiley - ok I hope your and smiley - bus were good as well smiley - biggrin


SQ and BB

Post 1024

Bluebottle

Well, I've written entries on Doctor Who hats and London, as well as babies and children in science fiction as a whole, so a Red Dwarf Guide to History (or whatever I call it) shouldn't be too hard a challenge – mind you, I've not managed to write about James Bond Sheds… But still, I've written about Doctor Who, Star Trek, Star Wars, the Avengers, Babylon 5 – so I'm probably due to write a Red Dwarf entry. I've plenty of time to complete it too as I'm seeing how never having more than 10 entries in Peer Review works out, and I've got 4 completed entries waiting their turn to be put in Peer Review, including three on Narnia.

I enjoy Narnia and Lord of the Rings, I think I've decided that Narnia is much more accessible, especially for younger readers. 'The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe' particularly has lots of child-friendly elements all stirred together, including Father Christmas and a mix-and-match mythology, with dollops of 'The Box of Delights' and 'The Snow Queen'. This worked well and the book is one of the best-selling on smiley - earth. If you want to read more into the Aslan/Jesus angle you can do, but alternatively if you just want to enjoy Aslan being a powerful lion, then that's fine too.

The trouble is, there's little things in the sequels that spoil it for me. I loved the idea of Narnia being a magical world without people but full of talking animals and mythical creatures, but we later learn that actually Narnia is only a small country and there's a vast empire ruled by humans surrounding it. For me, that took away some of the magic. Susan's eternal damnation for liking lipstick and/or no longer believing in Narnia seems excessive. Also why is it that the children are constantly told they're too old to be in Narnia despite 'once a king or queen of Narnia, always a king or queen' when Narnia and surrounding lands are full of humans of every age?
The White Witch is Narnia's best or second-best character after Aslan, but she seems a bit confused. She's a great villain, there's no doubt about that, but her origin story keeps changing. In 'The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe' (1950) she is a cross between the demonic descendants of Lilith on one side, and giants on the other. In 'Prince Caspian' (1951) we're told witches never die but can be resurrected. In 'The Silver Chair' (1953) the White Witch and Green Lady are 'of the same crew' and the same 'kind' and we're told that 'Northern Witches always mean the same thing'. Yet in prequel novel 'The Magician's Nephew' (1955), it is revealed that the White Witch was the last survivor of a dying world, having wiped out all life on her home world of Charn before being brought to Narnia, and so is the only one of her kind in Narnia.
The White Witch is a great villain, but none of the Narnia books comes close to having as good a baddie as she is, and the exciting hints that she might be resurrected don't really go anywhere.

With 'The Lord of the Rings', the story is much more structured. While Lewis wrote Narnia almost out of instinct, and had great instincts, Tolkien had spent decades crafting his world to the nth degree, knowing the backstory in incredible depth. All this preparation shows through – Middle Earth is much more textured, layered and consistent than Narnia.

Glad you had a good weekend – I'm afraid I'm one of the few people not to have watched the Bake Off programmes. Until they find a way to let you taste what is being cooked on the telly, I'm afraid I don't see the attraction – I don't find the idea of watching people doing hard work relaxingsmiley - winkeye.

The smiley - bus & smiley - ale weekend was good – I'm trying to decide whether to write about it for smiley - thepost or, as I wrote about it last year, would it be too repetitive? Did you have a spooky sun and sky on Monday? I wish I'd had my camera with me, or that the hurricane had hit 24 hours earlier. When else would I ever have the chance to photograph 1950s buses beneath a post-apocalyptic sky?

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Post 1025

SashaQ - happysad - Editor

Ah, that's a good idea to keep no more than 10 Entries in Peer Review at any one time. I see that there are still just about two pages in Peer Review, so that's my main criterion (if it were to drop to just one page, that would be a worrying problem, I think...). I can now sympathise as well as empathise with your situation that Entries tend to sink to the bottom, as a couple of my Entries have surprised me by getting no comments at all for more than a month... A couple got good debate, though, so it balances out overall smiley - zen

Your assessment of Narnia vs Lord of the Rings sounds reasonable indeed - the details you picked up on in Narnia were ones that passed me by as a child, so I perhaps wouldn't enjoy them as much as I once did, and perhaps would enjoy Lord of the Rings now even though I didn't then... I just liked how clean Narnia was, and I could imagine myself as Prince Caspian, or in a coracle at the edge of the world (a scene which looked in my imagination like a beach I'd been to on the north of the Wirral smiley - laugh)...

That was the 'good' thing about the chocolate cheesecake, that I could taste it because it wasn't on the telly, but I could imagine what a professional chef would have said about it (weirdly grainy texture, but at least it had a good chocolate flavour)...

I have bookmarked your smiley - ale and smiley - bus pictures to look at later smiley - ok A writeup for smiley - thepost might be good, as you could compare and contrast with the previous year to find something not too repetitive...

I did indeed see the spooky sun and sky on Monday, while I was driving so I couldn't take pictures either... I wondered which vehicle had an orange light on, reflecting in the mirrors, and then realised it was the sun in the sky! I saw some good photos on the internet, but that would have made a fine scene with the buses indeed, if you could have captured it smiley - ok

I have a few Entry ideas brewing, but am also trying to prepare entries for a couple of competitions so I'm having to watch the deadlines to make sure they don't go whooshing past... Fun to enter, even though I probably won't win, as I enjoy photos and writing, and the competitions are one of each smiley - ok


SQ and BB

Post 1026

Bluebottle

I just realised that Dmitri has 9 entries in Peer Review – he might overtake me to have more than me!smiley - yikes Seriously, I must spend more time reading the entries in Peer Review, but as you know it is often hard to know what to say on topics we know nothing about, such as television series we've not seen.

I have just sent off letter Q to smiley - thepost

I did still enjoy reading Narnia, and watching the old television series with my kids, and hope that they'll read Narnia one day too. They do capture the imagination and there is a reason the books have stood the test of time and are still deservedly popular today. They aren't as detailed as Tolkien, which many will consider a good thing as Tolkien's 'The Silmarillion' doesn't appeal to everyone. It's like asking whether you prefer 'Star Trek' or 'Star Wars', but just because you prefer one it doesn't mean you can't enjoy the other.
Still, on the whole I prefer Tolkien as it feels more epic and less episodic, while knowing that many people will prefer Narnia for exactly the same reasonssmiley - hug.

I did see a smiley - bus from Liverpool and tried to take a photo of it from out the bus window as it passed by. The experience was quite different from last year as we avoided going West and South, heading East instead and encountering a lot more birds.

Good luck with the competitions!smiley - goodluck

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