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Post 1

Leo

Hi, I've got your entry on the Garden of something-or-another. I notice that you haven't been on recently. Usually the sub confirms all changes with the researcher before submitting it to the edited guide. Please confirm your presence.

smiley - ok

smiley - magic

Leo smiley - geek Sub-Editor


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Post 2

magic-sophie

yes i am here........ do not be afraid......exams exams and more exams have kept me away....that and having to make the most important decision of my life...joyous! I could get in the editied guide...cool!

Have a magical day!

MS


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Post 3

Leo


Hello smiley - magic Sophie:

I pretty much finished with your entry. After this I'll just be touching up small things with the style guide and adding links. So look it over now, make your protestations, or forever hold your peace. smiley - biggrin


A1273774


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Post 4

Leo

A12737748 - your entry. I really enjoyed it. I'd never heard of this painting before, but now I've looked it up and can appreciate it. smiley - biggrin

I have a few questions before I finish it up:

smiley - star you mention the Haywain as an example of the expulsion of adam and eve, but when I googled the title I found this:
http://www.thelilypad.co.uk/haywain.html
which has nothing to do with Adam an Eve.

Could you specify the artist?



smiley - star another line which I quite frankly did not understand was the following:
>>It can also represent Christ, who loved the darkness of night because he did not want sinners to die but to have eternal life with him<<
I just don't get the connection. Can you explain it?



smiley - star also, you quote some lines out of a poem called the Romance of the Roses. Yet the lines are in blocktext form, not in lines, as a poem would be. Is this on purpose?



smiley - star the following line is ambiguous:
The pommer was a phallic symbol and is used in a way that is greatly linked to this reference. <!-- in the painting it is used, or in real life? !-->



smiley - star>>The image of the devil as a beast that sits on a throne is a direct lift from The Vision of Tundale <<

is the Vision of Tundale a poem? Essay? Story?

Thanks for clarifying these points so I can finish the polishing. smiley - ok


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Post 5

magic-sophie

now i am really miffed I have replyed to this twice and at the critical moment my computer died...both times...............

so this'll be short before it dies...again!

ok.the Haywain is by Hieronymus Bosch also..and it in Madrid at the reina de Sofia aswell

I wrote the lines of the romance of the Rose in block text because the poem was originally wrote in French, then changed into English by Chaucer...so in both languages the spacing is slightly different and I therefore didn't knwo where the correct spacing was as different versions have different spacings etc...and I didn't want to do it wrong and be criticised...or look stupid...

the jesus darkness thing I had a good reason for..and a good quote..except I can't find it so i'll get back to you!

erm...the phallic symbol is in reference to the painting and how it is depicted in there, however that is fairly confusing and therefore may be taken out

what else? The Vision of Tundale is a very old poem by............erm it escapes me but I'll look that up too...

Hope that's it.....thax for all your editing really appreciate it...I really can't edit as cannot really see faults in my own work as generally i know what i mean, evern if no-one else does...

Have a magical day!!!!

MS


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Post 6

magic-sophie

YEAY IT WORKED......finally and it wasn't that short...thanx again...

Have a magical day!

MS


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Post 7

Leo


smiley - ok I'm hanging in. Finishing up the last stuff so it'll be ready to go as soon as you get back to me.


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Post 8

magic-sophie

get back to you about what.....it's perfect you've done a fantastic job..i'd do a thumbs up sign but I don't know how to!

Have a magical day!
MS


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Post 9

Leo

these two:

the jesus darkness thing I had a good reason for..and a good quote..except I can't find it so i'll get back to you!



what else? The Vision of Tundale is a very old poem by............erm it escapes me but I'll look that up too...

smiley - ok < ok > (without the spaces)


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Post 10

Leo


When you're ready...


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Post 11

Leo

In addition to the Jesus darkness thing and the author of the Visions of tundale could you provide the source for the line of virgil you have in there?
Also, if it isn't too much trouble, would you be able to provide the line breaks according to any one opinion for the love-garden poem?

Thanks. I'm just waiting for this info before I return the entry. smiley - ok


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Post 12

magic-sophie

okay...

final things...one version of the spacings is:


When I had gone a little further,
I saw a large and extensive garden,
entirely surrounded by a high, crenulated wall,
which was decorated on the outside with paintings and carved with many rich inscriptions.

BUT it could be wrong...

Virgil...it is from 'The Ecolgues'part 10 or 'Eclogue X - Gallus'

The Jesus darkness thing..just ignore..delete it i do not have a clue where i was going...it was a momentary flash of genius/insanity that i will never recapture!

Visions of Tundale was originally written by Marcus , a benedictine monk in latin...however as witha ll classical stories it is complicated...the version I am referring to was a later version shortened by Helinand and then the copy which was later often referred to was by St. Vincent of Beauvais. So i would put it by St. Vincent of Beauvais however as with most classical literature it isn't strictly correct...QI!

Have a magical day!
MS



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