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Thanks Jim!

LiLike i say i didn't hav have the technical know how only asumptions. s. I thought i ws right tho when i said digibox's might have unique ISP's.

Just ust to clear this up Jim, if someone on a digibox kept changing email addresses for new accounts am i right in saying the bbc will know that they are coming from the same source n that that you can keep tabs on new accounts being opened by the same individual?

Thanks Jim

Can you then say how easy or difficult it is for h2g2 or the BBC to identify researchers who are say banned and setting up new accounts using different email addresses?

Great minds think alike eh Kea

It's *impossible* to totally prevent someone setting up multiple accounts with multiple email addresses. There are enough ways around any blocks that we could put up, except if that user always came in through the same IP address, and that address wasn't shared with anyone else, which usually isn't the case.

It's not trivial to track multiple users - I don't have a big button I can press saying 'track this user' - so it's not something I tend to do, because of the time it takes out of my real job. But it can be done if necessary, and I have been able to successfully identify multiple accounts in the past to my own satisfaction.

thanks Jim - that's clear enough for me.

Jim (U6), even tough STBs are only nodes, every STB has its own MAC address.

From TW point, every box has a 'smart card' the services are tied with card number to account number. So if they can bill for "pay-to-view events", movies on the front row service etc.

If anything a digibox user is more visable, than a PC user using a random proxy server. ie. Each .gif /text section using a different proxy to build a page.

As promised here are the links I was talking of,. Here is the link where dragon lord (as said by himself a r/l friend of Liam) telling hazelbrown that moon rising is not Sarah but in-fact Liam. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/plain/F1733961?thread=376753&post=4817054#p4817054 Here he is admitting to been here for over 2 years. http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/plain/F1731541?thread=375496&latest=1

thanks zyrak. So that's 2 places he's claiming to have been here 2 years. Of course he could be lying about that too.

kea, He could be lying about it. But I can’t see why he would lie about that.
Some one said in another thread (I cant remember what thread or who by, it might have been diddy) that if Liam is impersonating his mother, then why direct us to his other accounts. I have only one possible theory on this, and that is, I believe Flicker directs us to the threads/accounts only after he has been found out. This would have to be checked out of course but that’s my take on that matter.

I guess he could have made up the 2 year thing because he got so much sh*t for being a newbie and not knowing how to help new researchers properly. The 2 year claim did come rather late in the piece, although I suppose its posible he hadn't intended to reveal it at all originally

If he has been here 2 years then he has patently lied on numerous occasions with his whole help me I'm new line. Its very disengenuous. As such I can't really believe him either way.

If he had done his newbie thing in a quite and considerate manner it wouldn't have mattered that he isn't new - he could have had his fun and it wouldn't have bothered anyone.

The other thing is that he may just be doing the whole thing as windup with none of the details he has given being true. This is an indication of how far he went - I doubt that I would trust anything he says at the moment.

>> I have only one possible theory on this, and that is, I believe Flicker directs us to the threads/accounts only after he has been found out. <<

yeah, I noticed something strange about the timing yesterday of various Flicker and L**m incarnation posts. I couldn't quite figure out what was going on.

I've lost the motivation to be totally keeping up with the play. It's good that you and others here are still tracking it


kea.

Pedantic Peet has posted on 'The Liam Saga' about Flicker: F17555?thread=375949&post=4829638#p4828133

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I haven't checked for a few days - has Liam et al settled down?

Yes it seems to have for now

I suppose it can't be too much fun setting up new accounts, to then have the community jump up and down upon you saying, "you're such-and-such a person, I've seen you before."

Hopefully they will desist from setting up any further accounts, as I have to say, watching the Liam/Lee/etc hunting squads going out looking for more rule infraction hasn't been an entirely pleasant experience

I thought this thread was dead

As for Lee's activities i've not seen any evidence he has been on here for a couple of days or new accounts being opened. Like i said before now he kno knows we can track him withing hours of of new accounts being opened (moonrising) then he will probably lay low for a few days n then open an account when he think its safe.

I still keep an eye on 'who's online' to see about new accounts but i've stopped searching for old accounts as i've got better things to do with my time.

I've wasted enough time on this matter already as i expect you also feel the same.

Agreed


* closes door and on the way out *

Thanks GD

Unfortunately one didn't have to go very far looking for Liam as most of the original stuff happened on Ask.

Diddy!

Oh i forgot to mention this sorry!

I don't believe that Lee has been on here 2 years either as i only had th link to come on here a year ago last November n the person who sent me nt me the link had been on here since the the July previous which is 18 months or so. I can't see a digibox user having the link for 2 years although i do know aka had it first. I doubt very much it found its way into Lee's posession so quickly. A year maybe, 2 years a definate no-no i'm afraid.

Thats all i've got to say on the n the matter but if any new accounts crop up you'll get the exclusive here first!