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Post 1

Sho - employed again!

I thought very long and hard about mentioning your thing with Ed when I was whingeing about moderation and how the site is losing its interest for me.

But I thought that his behaviour was a good example of how I think the moderation here had gone wrong.

It's never been my intention to offend, hurt, upset or otherwise behave in a mean way towards you.
smiley - sadface


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Post 2

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

Hi Sho, so sorry, I've only just seen this thread!!

No need to apologise at all, but I appreciate your kindness in doing so smiley - smiley I didn't feel like you were being mean to me smiley - ok just disagreeing. It was a strange week on hootoo as well, but I think things have calmed down a bit?


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Post 3

Sho - employed again!

Blimey, I hope so!
smiley - tea


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Post 4

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

smiley - smiley


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Post 5

Sho - employed again!

smiley - teasmiley - cake
how are you doing?


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Post 6

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

Had a good day yesterday, just stayed out of everything and my RL overly busy days had come to an end for as bit so it was quite pleasant here smiley - smiley

It doesn't take much here to remind there is a big problem for me here though smiley - sadface


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Post 7

Sho - employed again!

yes, it must be difficult for you smiley - tea

There's almost a kind of fin du siècle feeling about the place - hopefully it will soon be over and after the dust of the move has settled I hope you'll find h2g2 not such a stressful place. smiley - cake always helps, I think.


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Post 8

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

smiley - cakesmiley - smiley

Were you talking about who I think you were talking about in that other thread, or is there something else going on that I don't know about?

Gawd, now I'm talking obscurely too smiley - silly


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Post 9

Sho - employed again!

sorry - I know it's all obtuse but in a general thread I really prefer not to name names. Aside of the fact that I was, indeed, talking about Effers because it is her actions recently that have riled me, it is also that it is hugely possible that in other areas of the site that I don't go to, similar things might be happening.

I get what you mean about it being better to be open, but in her particular case I don't know if it would be seen as fanning the flames of a campaign of bullying (and I can see how some people could think she is being bullied if they are only looking at things from one angle) or fan the flames of what might well be a kind of paranoia and make things worse for her.

Because despite the fact that it really does peeve me that she disrupts so much, if she let some of the "memememe" go I think I'd really enjoy seeing her around a lot more.

(not sure if Effers reads your message centre - if so, *waves* even though she probably doesn't feel at all well disposed towards me)

But, Kea, I can see that a lot of things here on the site are really royally pissing you off right now. I really think it's just a kind of fin du siècle kind of thing and that in a few (or some) months it will be a really great place to hang out.


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Post 10

Sho - employed again!

hi Kea - sorry, this might sound a bit harsh but it's not meant that way. I've been having a rethink about how I view the site and how I think the researchers can help it to move along without necessary being in any official capacity. So I thought that instead of me getting all riled when I saw something that I didn't like and comment on it in a vague way elsewhere, I'd take the bull by the horns.

Part of that is I'm trying to sort of make my peace with Effers becuase although I don't think I'm a huge part of it, some of my posts have probably upset her and I don't like to upset anyone. So I checked her journal today, and her perception of what's happening at the moment is that you're attacking her where she can't have her say back. And my recommendation to her (as it would be to anyone who feels they are the subject of personal attacks, yourself included) is to yikes where necessary and let TPTB make a decision one way or the other.

For the record, I thought that post you yikesed yesterday shouldn't have been allowed back, but now we know how robust the modding will be, I think.

I hope I'm not crossing a line, I love seeing you around the site, because if it stays Euro/US centric it will be a poorer place.

smiley - tea


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Post 11

Peanut

Hi Sho

I think I should step in here. I haven't been to Effers space and don't intend to. I think you will find that the person that posted about Effers behaviour onsite was me not Kea and Effers is responding to that most likely rather than directly to anything Kea particulary said. (i might have missed something but this is how it stood yesterday mid-afternoon)

So that should be on my shoulders not Keas. I acted independently in doing that.


Peanut smiley - peacesign








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Post 12

Peanut

I should have posted that on your space Sho, I am not sure how comfortable Kea would want me opening a discussion with you about Effers on her space

smiley - sorry Kea


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Post 13

Peanut

how comfortable she would be smiley - groan


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Post 14

Sho - employed again!

hi Peanut, I didn't look for any posts, so I have no idea who said what when or why. Partly because I'm short of time but partly becausee I don't want to get sucked right into it.

What I said to Effers was that if she thought Kea was making personal attacks, she should yikes. I then came to Kea to tell her I'd told Effers that just so that everyone is clear about things.

In the end, of course, the mods and the CEs will take whatever action (or not) they think is necessary. But I think we need to work out for ourselves how this new site is working and going to work. I guess that if Effers sees posts by Peanut that she feels are attacking her, and if she takes my advice (she's free not to, and I'm not a volunteer in any way so it's just one researcher to another) she may well yikes your posts too. Or mine or anyone's.

smiley - tea


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Post 15

Peanut

smiley - ok


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Post 16

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

Sho, I've had a couple of days of much needed break from the site, so my apologies for not replying sooner. I'd like to reply more specifically at another time, but am enjoying not being involved in that particular issue currently, so again my apologies. I would like to say that I've very much appreciated your talking to me here, your openness and honesty and the support over the yikesed post smiley - hugsmiley - cheers


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Post 17

Sho - employed again!

hey Kea, I was hoping you were only having a rest smiley - hug

I still think we are all on a very steep learning curve with what is allowed, what's not and the line the mods will take.

A few days away from the site would do me the power of good but I'm hiding from writing an essay I don't want to do so I think it's not going to happen smiley - winkeye


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Post 18

kea ~ Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small, unregarded but very well read blue and white website

h2g2, the bastion of avoiding RL smiley - winkeye

btw, I don't think you were too harsh in the Writing Guidelines thread. We need more plain talking smiley - ok I have such a huge appreciation for Mina at this point in things, for her willingness to keep fronting up and speaking up.


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Post 19

Sho - employed again!

that thread has been an eye-opener, that's for sure smiley - yikes

as for my essay... still not written... smiley - biro


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