h2g2 The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: Earth Edition

*floating in, in her usual vague, elf-like manner*

After the GuideML questions, I was curious about the result - and I see you managed to make everything work - looking good!

Your words of care and enthusiasm are like "Angledust" to me.

And I'm also curious about yóur Entry, so I'll have a look there today.

Thanks!

Alfredo, Alfredo - stop!

Do you realize you've posted the one and the same journal on your user page no less than 4 times already?

Oh - looking at your conversations list, I realize that you've probably used this option:

'Click here to remove this Journal Entry from your Space'

Sorry to disappoint you, but all that does is actually unsubscribing yourself from those entries - they will still exist, and people might even reply to them - but you'll never know, since you've unsubscribed.

Both I and Ottox tried to get the wording changed, so that users would understand what was actually happening when you try to 'delete' a journal - and it was changed from 'delete' to 'remove' - but I still think it's inadequate - people won't realize that the journals will still be there...

I learnt this from Ottox (thanks Ottox!) when I tried it myself - but he also gave me a nifty link where I can keep an eye on all my journals, unsubscribed or not - and here is a link to a list of your journals:

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Oh, I am VERY grateful for your feedback about deleting Journals,
although I realise, that my efforts to make it all readable just have had the opposite effect; a chaos of many, many repeated Journals.

Sometimes I rewrote a Journal = autobiographic story a few times and then later on I decided to change the order of the Journals.

Now, this means that there has grown a mountain of repeated Journals, without realizing it.

A real mess, and that, while I also put much effort in visual readabillity.

At least I do now how it all works and I can refer to that situation in my own entry.

Thanks a lot for telling me!

And maybe I'll start all over with registration and my own, new entry and copy the Journals....

You could try writing your journal in an entry first, re-read it a couple of times, edit if you want to - and then, when you feel it's ready, post it as a journal

I don't know how many times I've wished I could edit a journal - sometimes things don't come out exactly the way I intended...

Dear Titania,

After your kind mail to warn me, a lot has happened.
And at the end of a hard working day at h2g2 I posted this experience, in combination with suggestions.

Below you can read what I just posted at Feedback Forum.




"At my personal entry, I received a posting from Titania that struck me right in my heart.

Here it is.

"Alfredo, Alfredo - stop!

Do you realize you've posted the one and the same journal on your user page no less than 4 times already?

Oh - looking at your conversations list, I realize that you've probably used this option:

'Click here to remove this Journal Entry from your Space'

Sorry to disappoint you, but all that does is actually unsubscribing yourself from those entries - they will still exist, and people might even reply to them - but you'll never know, since you've unsubscribed.

Both I and Ottox tried to get the wording changed, so that users would understand what was actually happening when you try to 'delete' a journal - and it was changed from 'delete' to 'remove' - but I still think it's inadequate - people won't realize that the journals will still be there...

I learnt this from Ottox (thanks Ottox! ) when I tried it myself - but he also gave me a nifty link where I can keep an eye on all my journals, unsubscribed or not - and here is a link to a list of your journals:

Titania"



Well, this is very disappointing (and even embarrassing) for me !!

Because writing in my own Journal is one of the main reasons of joining the world of H2G2.

That means, I write with grate care and effort to keep it readable, because English isn't my native language and because I mainly want to conserve all kinds of autibiographic memories in this Journal.

It brings fresh air to my heart, it gives an extra dimension to those memories, because maybe,now they are also being read and shared. others.

That all feels very meaningfull to me.
Not because I'm such a great writer, but because it contains something from me, as a person who joins this world for at most just a 100 years.

So I reread them often after I have posted the new Journals and when I discovered poor grammar and expressions that don't match my intentions, I "deleted" the Journals and rewrote them.

Sometimes I even changed the course of some Journals, to make them more relevant.

In practice this meant I "deleted" some Journals many, mány times....

But in the H2G2 entries, áll Journals appear to remain, even if you have "deleted" them!!

The only thing that has changed after you used the "delete this Journal"- button, is that it isn't any longer visible for the "owner" of his/her personal space.

Just "no longer visible" for me, while others will see a warehouse of repeated Journals.
Nothing worse to see than that.
It makes one flee, far, fár away...............................
I would.


Titania and Ottox realized by their own the problem at H2G2 and tried to tackle it by changing the word "Delete" in "Remove". Well tried, but appearently the suggestion of "delete" remains.

As friendly Titania writes me today;
"Both I and Ottox tried to get the wording changed, so that users would understand what was actually happening when you try to 'delete' a journal - and it was changed from 'delete' to 'remove' - but I still think it's inadequate - people won't realize that the journals will still be there..."
And quote.


So I - Alfredo - decided to start all over again;

1. New registration

2. New personal space

3. All my written Journals copied in their historic order.
(and even nów one is double..)

4. And I'll try to repair the social damage as much as possible,
by rewriting the old personal space and direct visitors overthere
to this new personal Space.

And I hope I'll then be able to continue my rather quiet existence
in the friendly world of H2G2.


It will take some time to adjust to this whole new situation and I'l try to make a meaningful discussion at H2G2 about the "Remove your Journal" function.

My first idea is, to cancell the option, because áll it cán do in these circumstances, is making it unvisible for just óne person.
That really doesn't make that much sense to me, while the risk of confusion is big. Am I right?

So I propose to change the word "Remove this Journal" in "Unsubscribe this Journal".
That covers the reality.

Isn't that a good idea??

Maybe then, this "personal tragedy" can be fruitfull after all, and that's all that matters to me.


Greatings from Alfredo"

My dear Titiana,


I would néver in my entire life dare to use that link to the mountain of repeated Journals.
So embarressing, although I can't blame myself for it, because of the understandable confusion.

In a nightmare I can see the beginning of the link.......

Fair enough...

...although I can't resist using the link to all my journals, because in case someone has responded to one of them, I'd like to know.

I should have mentioned earlier that the chance that someone else would see all your journals is pretty small - because the way you usually find someone's journal is by looking on his/her user page.

If you can't see it on your user page, then so can no one else

- unless they've added you to their friends' list or, as I did, subscribed to new conversations on said user page. Then the journals will pop up on the Lurker's list of conversations, and stay there until he/she unsubscribes from them.

- or unless he/she happens to be around your user page just as you're rewriting the journal (unless you've removed the journal before you create the new journal).

Sorry about the confusion, I really ought to have explained in more detail.