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What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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Rosa Baggins, (see LOTR appendix Hobbits Family trees for more information)

Being an island does not help our chances and where we are. The British Isles and Ireland would have to be pushed further away from the European continent and be pushed further north, nearby Iceland.

Or the following conditions will greatly improve our chances:

The Icelandic volcanoes need to erupt all at once.

There needs to be a very early and intense sudden stratospheric warming event taken place in early November. It has to be strong enough to obliterate the polar vortex winds.

There needs to be 31 foggy days or nights and 31 frosty or nights in October.

There has to be intense Northern blocking over Scandinavia.

There has to a weak El Nino event.

We need to be in an easterly Quasi biennial oscillation.

There needs to have been a strong Atlantic hurricane season.

The North Pacific waters between Alaska and Russia need to be much colder and that the cold water will need to spread throughout the whole of the North Pacific ocean. It would help if there were sea ice covering the North Pacific.

There should be sea ice between Greenland and Iceland as well as the sea ice forming bridging the Svalbard and Scandinavian gap.

There needs to be a North Atlantic tripod in May.

There needs to a very rapid progress of snow cover in November that fills the whole of Scandinavia and Russia by the first or second week of November and keep on increasing throughout the month of November into Eastern and into Central Europe.

The jet stream should be go far south to the Mediterranean Sea/North Africa.

We also need to be going out of Solar minimum.


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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Rosa Baggins, (see LOTR appendix Hobbits Family trees for more information)

Better still there should be sea ice extending from Eastern Iceland to Northern Norway.


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

Post 3

Rosa Baggins, (see LOTR appendix Hobbits Family trees for more information)

The only the above would happen is either through technology or through gaining superpowers.


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U.

smiley - sadfaceThe Mid Atlantic Trench where tectonic plates move apart, makes us move away from America etc.
I'd prefer for "us" to move away from europe smiley - smileysmiley - smileysmiley - smiley


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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Pierce The Pirate ~ out of Hotblack Desiato mode again ~

Be careful what you wish for smiley - winkeye

smiley - pirate


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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Rosa Baggins, (see LOTR appendix Hobbits Family trees for more information)

I wish could have superpowers so to cool the earth down and plant more trees. I have already got 4 mature deciduous trees in the back garden with several other deciduous saplings which have been planted in the past three years.


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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paulh. the world is a circus, but why d I have to work without a net?

Planting trees does not require superpowers.

People who want to live in colder climates can do so by moving. Deciding not to move is okay, too. You just accept things the way they are where you live.

I'm not saying that you need to give up your dreams if you can't move. You might go on vacation to places you like. There might be ice skating rinks in your area. Are there any tall mountains near you? Even in Israel, there are people who can go skiing because a mountain with snow on top is available in the winter.


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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Rosa Baggins, (see LOTR appendix Hobbits Family trees for more information)

I live in Thurrock in the South East of England and there are no tall mountains nearby, nor any ice rinks. The tall mountains are in Scotland. I find travelling long distances very painful and stressful due to chronic ill health and sensory overload.


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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paulh. the world is a circus, but why d I have to work without a net?

Are there any other options I haven't thought of? smiley - hug

I'm at the other end of the spectrum from you. I live in a-place that has very cold winters, but I'd rather have Spring and Summer year around. When it's col;d here (as it is now), I go to movies that are set in the tropics or filmed during the Summer. If I want to pretend that it's Summer, I can have lunch at the Rainforest Cafe at a nearby shopping mall..

I'm lucky, though. I do get warm weather from May through September.

Do you get weather that's cold enough for snowmen? Even if you have make the snow yourself, you might have a snowman, at least for a while. Could you put posters of snowy mountains on your walls? Or have snowman figurines on the top of your furniture?

I have Christmas figurines on display on my dining room table year 'round. There's an Arborvitae tree next to my driveway. Even in Summer, could pretend that there's snow on the branches.


if you like evergreens but don't have any nearby, could you get a potted one and put fake snow on it?

smiley - smiley


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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Rosa Baggins, (see LOTR appendix Hobbits Family trees for more information)

No, it has been 10 years since the last time there was enough snow to make a snowman, I tried but failed to build one.smiley - hug

I have an variegated euonymus evergreen shrub, holly tree (female), ivy, juniper sapling and a fir sapling.

The garden birds love their special recipe peanut butter.

I do not mind frosty days and nights.

I watch past snow events in the British Isles and Ireland on YouTube.

The polar vortex winds have been at near record levels with the zonal winds which bad news for cold in the British isles and Ireland. The zonal winds have lessened a bit but we need to have mega strong intense and sudden stratospheric warming.

I do not like the summers now as they are too hot, I would like to go back to the summers that we had in the 60's and the 70's.

I also like getting lost in foggy weather and it is very good for photography (I am a learner) as it makes for the good scenery.

I have got my own my compost heap underneath the unknown yellow small five petal flowers of deciduous shrub and tree which has a passiflora vine. Apple wood logs are also underneath the shrub. The common ivy has not started to flower.


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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Rosa Baggins, (see LOTR appendix Hobbits Family trees for more information)

Gavin Partridge is a vlogger that I follow on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bId1e1fSixk&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=Uo0ePvN4e72zGuHg%3A6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bId1e1fSixk&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=Uo0ePvN4e72zGuHg%3A6


What will take for the British isles and Ireland to have a cold winter

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paulh. the world is a circus, but why d I have to work without a net?

My father was a meteorologist for the Army Air Fore during World War Two. The rest of his life, he was an amateur weatherman. We always asked him what the weather was going to be like, and his predictions were often better than those of the professionals.

I inherited none of his talent, but I *always* look up the weather predictions for my area. Every day.

I also like to think about climate. I read books about the ice ages whenever I see a good book on the subject.

So, you are not alone in caring about this. smiley - smiley

I admire plants and animals that hibernate or die back tot he roots when it gets cold. Without winter, I would not get the thrill of watching my plants come back when warm weather comes. I never get tired of seeing life being reborn. smiley - smiley

It's just that it's cold here for far too long! smiley - cross

I ship some of the cold air to you, but the postage would make m,e bankrupt. smiley - groan


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