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Researcher 185550

Hi there, I was reccomended to pop along to your space, told we'd get on....


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

really? was it Terri or Abbi that told you that?
i'm not denying it. i mean, i know nothing about you other than you chose to name yourself after a delectable roadside treat. smiley - winkeye
i suppose i should look at your space huh? (my stupidity even surprise me sometimes.)
why is it we're supposed to get along? (i'm not exactly famous for playing nicely with the other children) smiley - monster


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Researcher 185550

I think it was Terri, and something about swapping exam horror stories (waits for enraged diatribe about how we base our lives around exams).

My space is hideously embarassing. I don't seem to be able to write well about myself.


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

don't worry, i don't judge people by their spaces.smiley - laugh (i mean, look at mine. i'd probly hate myself if i did judge people by what they wrote one sunday afternoon in a vague attempt to project what they wanted the online world to see of them.) but yours wasn't bad. some of it was funny, and it didn't fill me with an urge to destroy my modem and sever all contacts to the outside world, as some people's did.

exam horror, eh? well, actually i prefer to supress traumatic experiences such as exams, theological discussions and conversations with most of my friends.yikes> but, if you wish to share your pain and complete self-loathing as a result of sitting a "fun learning experience" (actually, that's what they call them here. at least at my schoolsmiley - groan), by all means, go ahead.smiley - rainbow

i would object to the undue focus on exams, but, being a college student, i understand the blood, sweat and tears given in a vain attempt to gain marks and an entrance to uni. *mutters something about capitalist b*stards and their insistence on ranking society. oh why, oh why, does communism never work?!*



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Researcher 185550

Oh, good, I'm glad you (quite) liked it.

You are a sort of despairing communist? I have an e- friend, name of Clare, both of us are socialist- communist- anarchist type of people, hop along some time if you wish.

Theology is good, I tend to veer more to the philosophy of religion side of it, as I am doing philosophy in school at the moment and hope to continue it to uni.

I think the reason communism never works is because it's not really bin properly tried. I mean, the only place the conditions were approaching suitable is Cuba, but now they're suffering because Fidel's getting on a bit and the US (massive economic clout) is sanctioning it. Plus there's the problem with getting rid of self interest. After all, the USSR was headed by Stalin for a fairly long time. When did it stop being communist in all except name? When Stalin sacrificed the principles of communism (the benefit of the whole) to keep himself in power (the benefit of the self). Shortly before he died he was making plans for Nazi- like concentration camps, the inmantes of which would be- yes you guessed it- mostly Jewish smiley - grr. There's a Russian word, pogrom, which means "violent persecution of the Jews". Pity. Marx said that when everything is established, the world should tick along nicely without government. It's as close as we could get to Utopia.

I think the world's attitude to communism at the moment is rather like that of a failed home- brewing kit. I'll unpack that now. Imagine that the Russians had taken home a brewing kit, and added all the ingredients, but instead of leaving it for two weeks, they left it for two days. They then took out their home- brew, and tried to drink it. Of course, it was a distaster. On these grounds, the rest of the world has condemned brewing, said that was bound to fail and is inherently flawed. This conclusion is based on rather unsolid grounds.

Hope thats not too much of a rant.


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

haha! i do KNOW why communism never works! i was merely despairing this. that was quite an intelligent essay type thingy though. especially for around here. i think experiments in communism, although fun and entertaining for all involved, are futile because you will NEVER get a group of people where no-one wants to take charge. there will always be someone striving to be better than those around them. fundamental human nature dictates that communism can never operate.

i'm only a semi-communist. because i like the whole ideals any all that, but i don't particularly like the idea of being stripped of my individuality and becoming another social statistic. that is the biggest problem with the fundamentals of communism. all us selfish individualists who want to rebel against authority and be different to the status quo (i know, it's an egotistical notion, but it's not a character flaw i'm too keen on getting rid of) would be thoroughly buggered in a communist society where everyone is equal and so on.

i hate theological discussions because i am an atheist adnd since i go to a church school all sorts of people try to convert me or tell me that they'll pray for my soul or something equally stupid whenever they find out. it's really quite a painful procedure. i mean, the psychology and philosophy of how and why religion exists is fun, i just don't like the bit where your supposed to...you know what, i probably shouldn't continue. i can just tell i'm gunna get moderated. again.

it has just occured to me that since there are such large blocks of text in these posts that you have probably noticed a complete lack of capital letters in my writing (except for emphasis). i'm sorry if this irritates you, but that's just the way it is. it is my go at communism (i suppose this isn't as irrelevant as i first thought). every letter is equal to every other letter and they are all written in the same case (all capitals would even irritate me.). i tried a communist number system for a while, but it kinda made even the simplest equations both undefined and infinity.

goddamn this is L-O-N-G. sorry about that. unsubscribe if you wish.


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Researcher 185550

I'm not bothered about the punctuation, or the capitalising. It's nice to hear your opinions smiley - smiley.

"stripped of my individuality and becoming another social statistic"

Yes, I think this is where the reality and the theory of communism come apart. The theory is: be as much of an individual as you like, the state has no interest in taking your property, it really doesn't matter to us. However, in reality, because of aforesaid problem (leader arises and wants to stay in power) people's personal property does get regulated because the leader wants total control.

Do explain about your communist number systems...?


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

yes, i know you're not SUPPOSED to be just another clone, but the fact of the matter is, when communism is put into practice there aint much scope for any of that kinda thing.

communist numbers. um. well, all numbers are equal. which kinda defeats the purpose i suppose. because if every number equals zero and everything else, then equations are kinda pointless. and computers would have a few issues. (011010101...well actually, it doesn't matter. it all means the same). also i suppose, we wouldn't really need any other symbols. it's a rather difficult system to implement, but it sure as hell makes calculus much easier smiley - winkeye(multiply by the x and the range is...undefined. again. wow. what a co-incidence.)smiley - laugh


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Researcher 185550

smiley - laugh

But all numbers don't have to equal zero, just because all numbers are equal. Why can't they all be, say, one?


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

they are. they all equal one. they also all equal zero. and two. and three. and 42. and 1847654783458345.


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Researcher 185550

I suddenly see how this complicates and simplifies equations. Because, whatever you put down for your answer, it is wrong and right.


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

precisely. it also has all kinds of computer-related problems. binary wouldn't mean anything, and hence the computer would have no idea which way was up.


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Researcher 185550

Hang on a tic,

Aren't we assuming that being the same is equality? Who is to say that, for example, 15218687158 is better than 1? They could be equal without being the same.


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

that was the basic assumption of my number system. otherwise, we are proposing and overall change of absolutely bugger all to the current system. smiley - winkeye
i like everything equalling everything else. it means i did really well on all my maths tests. i can't possibly get it wrong... (for that matter, it doesn't matter what number they write in big red pen, it all means the same smiley - biggrin)


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Researcher 185550

Well, yes, that is very cunning. You don't change it, you keep it the same but for better reasons.

Good luck with your maths test.


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

smiley - laugh
i have a moral objection to maths tests...doesn't mean i don't do 'em, just means no-one's surprised when i do badly...smiley - winkeye


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Researcher 185550

smiley - laugh

The two subjects I plan to take, philosophy and french, are good ones for testing. In philosophy I mutter "Descartes never had to do a philoosphy exam" in french. In French I mutter something about the irony of testing languages.


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

that was an interesting spelling of philosophy... (right before "exam")
you speak french, eh? how awful for you. i did that for a while. hated it. not that german is much better...
i would do philosophy too, but here philosophy is connected to religion and in order to pass the exam you have to write "i love jesus" at least three times in context...i like your method better...


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Researcher 185550

I've been doing French for ten years, It's sort of ingrained. I don't learn any more, just practise.

Yes it's connected to religion, but I wrote a very scathing criticism of the Ontological proof for God's existence for my philosophy of religion exam and got 98%.


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Moose }:8) BOYCOTTING ALL SMILEYS UNTIL YOU GIVE US A MOOSE!!!(the first to own a conceptual spork!!!)

smiley - wow nice work!
um. i just don't think i could get away with that here. they'd probly send me to the counsellor to "consolidate my faith" or something equally ridiculous. it's just generally safer to avoid the religion department at all costs.
apart from which, i have way to much work to be getting all deep and meaningful...
speaking of which, i have some stuff to do right now...smiley - yuksmiley - groan


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