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Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
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This is the nation's highest civilian honor, awarded by presidents since John F Kennedy for meritorious contributions to the nation's national interests, to world peace, or to cultural or other significant public or private endeavors.
Bill Belichick is the coach for the new England Patriots, an American football team. What is especially significant here is that (1.) Belichick has been a Trump supporter, but (2.) he has great reverence for "our nation’s values, freedom and democracy." In other words, the events of last week persuaded him that Trump undermined American democracy, and to accept this award from him would be wrong.
I don't think that Belichick is losing anything he values by turning down the award. On the other hand, Trump is losing face in a highly public way.
Some observers are asking Congress to make it impossible for Trump to ever hold public office of any kind ever again. On one hand, this would divert energy and resources from the many challenges that Congress and the new president face. But on the other hand, Trump needs to be hit over the head in order for the message to get through to him.
Voiding his Twitter account was a nice touch, but why wait so long to do it>? Likewise his Facebook account. Trump doesn't get it. He can't be retrained. We can't exile him, as the world exiled Napoleon and Ayatollah Khomeini. Silencing him on social media would give the country an interval in which to recover from the horrors of last week.
And we especially don't want him to ever run for president again.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Last Week
He is nothing but a spoiled and entitled little boy of 4-5 years in an adult body. And it has long been obvious that he can't be changed.
He may lose his power but the problem remains: His followers
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Last Week
If Pence pulls the 25th on DT he may gain (or regain) some respect, but will he be able to run for president in four years?
I doubt it. But four years is a long time in politics.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
paulh, making lemonade from the lemons that life has given me Posted Last Week
True.
Presidential primaries weed people out. The early favorites often fade away.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted Last Week
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
paulh, making lemonade from the lemons that life has given me Posted Last Week
Trump made a lot of noise. A lot of people vented their frustration. Which is how it's supposed to be.
Then he went too far, and his supporters trashed Washington. They will be punished. And the other side will get its chance. Our founders were smart.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Last Week
I just read an article discussing whethter Trump is a fascist or not. The conclusion was that he is not. He doesn't have a policy and if he really wanted to stage a coup he would have made sure he had gathered stronger support, like from military and other forces.
I believe the conclusion is correct. A 4-5 year old spoiled and entitled kid which changes its views and lies from hour to hour is not capable of forming a policy.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
paulh, making lemonade from the lemons that life has given me Posted Last Week
Successful fascist leaders seem to have more charm than Trump has.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Last Week
Seeing old clips of Mussolini always reminds me of Trump. Their facial expressions, gestures and other body language are reminiscent of each other.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
paulh, making lemonade from the lemons that life has given me Posted Last Week
I don't know Mussolini very well. He rose to power in 1922 and kept it until 1943. 21 years of Trump would be a nightmare. Italian governments seem to come and go quickly nowadays.
The U.S. seems to expect a presidential administration to last for four years, and then go before the voters. The constitution precludes a term of more than eight years.
So, a series of Trump-like fascists could conceivably rule indefinitely, but Trump's loyalists have never constituted a majority of the population.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Last Week
"The constitution precludes a term of more than eight years." [paulh]
But FDR served from 1933 until his death in 1945
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Last Week
and actually won a record four presidential elections
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
paulh, making lemonade from the lemons that life has given me Posted Last Week
The two-term limit was imposed *after* Roosevelt.
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Last Week
I guessed that. What I don't understand is if the US can impose that, why can't they impose an amendment to the second amendment?
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Last Week
Belichick declines Presidential Medal of Freedom offered by Trump
paulh, making lemonade from the lemons that life has given me Posted Last Week
The Second amendment:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
It depends on what you take the word "infringed" to mean. People who might be a danger to others can be denied a gun permit. In fact, having to get a permit may be viewed by some as an infringement.
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