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Post 1

FWR

Just wrote a rather witty and thought provoking piece on the Word of God.

(Don't panic, watched Messiah last night and had a rather weird conversation with the Jehovah's Witnesses at my door this morning.)

Quick reread of my theologically questioning words...and the interwebs crash and wipe my profound thoughts away...act of God maybe?

So a second, slightly less amusing and deep try. Crashed again.

God is not a happy bunny. Third go....oops.

Anyway gist of it was, what proof would it take for a modern person of little or no faith to accept a certain Divine reality? What would happen to all those who had backed the wrong horse? What if the horse was in fact a zebra, or a goldfish etc etc?

Lost my thread totally (and literally), never ask deep questions when you've just finished nights!

Spoiler alert....

the JW website has apparently got all the answers! Or maybe not? Who knows?

(Ps.Terry Pratchett quotes about Gods are not invited)


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Post 2

paulh. the world is a circus, but why d I have to work without a net?

Terry Pratchett? It's turtles all the way down.

Some people turn to religious faith after a terrible ordeal. Kate Smith, the American singer, fell down in her bathtub and almost bled to death. When she recovered, she became a staunch Roman Catholic.

The idea of a reborn Christian implies that something monumental has occurred to change your life. Conquering a ruinous addiction, followed by a self-help group that was heavy on religious inspiration? Surviving a terrible motor accident? You're the only survivor of a terrible incident, and your conclusion" "God was with me."

I'm arguing for hr validity of these conclusions. I'm only saying that they seem to happen often enough to form a pattern, to my tired eyes and mind. smiley - senior

(And, no, I have yet to have such an experience.)


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Not Banned in China

I enjoyed 'Messiah' thoroughly. I'm looking forward to the next series. smiley - smiley

The problem with theology is that it's a bunch of fish trying to describe life outside the fish tank... I'd rather not get into theory, and go by personal experience. Maybe this would help: 1 Kings 19.

'The Lord said, “Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the Lord, for the Lord is about to pass by.

Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake came a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper.'

Now, the Authorised Version calls it 'a still, small voice'. (kol d'mamah daka) A Hebrew commentary calls it 'the sound of silence'. (I just checked: the Hebrew translation of Paul Simon's song has the title 'Kol H'mamah')

If we go still enough, we can hear it.

In the story, Elijah, who's kind of a Starfleet guy on an away mission (he gets picked up by the ship later) is complaining because he's frustrated and tired of being picked on by the bad guys. The voice he hears gives him further instructions.

I think the lesson is: never mind all the yelling. You can only communicate from where you are. Headquarters knows where you are, and cares. And unlike Starfleet, you cannot possibly lose your communicator. Don't worry about the theory - what, you're such a control freak? - just listen for the voice in the sound of silence.

Okay, shutting up now. smiley - winkeye




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Post 4

FWR

Please don't shut up! I like the idea of that still small voice, something Other in the silence, it's just how you'd get the world to agree to the existence of an actual deity. Light and Dark I can grasp, the beauty of Nature, the power of love even, but that proof would be tricky without an existing Faith?

Fascinating stuff.


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Post 5

FWR

Maybe the existence of a gluten free, nut free lemon cake that tastes good would do?smiley - cakesmiley - devil


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Not Banned in China

smiley - snork I fully believe that this will happen in the Resurrection. And though worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I enjoy pizza again.

Interesting point, though: is it necessary for humans to agree on an interpretation of this level of reality for heaven to do its work? What about a Second Coming that is 'take it or leave it, it's happening'?

The problem that occupies me is, since I'm sure God can 'fix the world' and make it right, how is he going to get humans in a state to enjoy it? Or even be fit to live in it? That's the miracle, right there.


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Post 7

FWR

Closest I get is riding my bike through a sunrise. Now that is truly heavenly.


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Not Banned in China

You've got it. smiley - smiley The is-ness of the moment, and pure gratitude for the experience. We could go all social-media-y and make lists:

Night under the stars
A quiet beach on the Aegean
A sudden insight
A moment of pure music (your values may vary)
The smile of a baby
Playing with kittens (did it for Abe Lincoln)
Kindness from a stranger
A single flower
The bee on that flower
The warmth of a fire on a cold night

This could go on, tediously, I expect...


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Post 9

FWR

You Christian folk sure are cynical bout listin'!


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Not Banned in China

smiley - winkeye Just being snarky.


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Post 11

FWR

DG's Top Ten Snarky Comments of 2019... hardback edition...smiley - biggrin


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Not Banned in China

smiley - snork


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paulh. the world is a circus, but why d I have to work without a net?

"You've got it. smiley - smiley The is-ness of the moment, and pure gratitude for the experience." [Dmitri]

That's where I am most of the time. Life seems like such a gift. The moment is here and gone, and another comes to take its place. I'm afraid of overthinking it.


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