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Pastey Posted Feb 26, 2013
All of us have insights and stories to tell. One of the greatest things that the Guide can be is a repository of *knowledge*
Knowledge isn't just data and facts, but it's a telling of experience.
Do write them down and submit them, see how the editorial process is now, and feedback your thoughts on it too!
How long has it been possible to ban a person from posting in a particular conversation thread?
Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Feb 26, 2013
No idea what you mean Alfster by this:
"There is *old* diabolical/substandard entries in places, possibly not fully in the guide that, on occasin, I've thought - that could be better - I'd be up for tidynig some of those up on occasion! " [sic]
...but if these are your own substandard entries, then please feel free. The editorial volunteers do not have power nor permission to improve unedited entries. Nor would that be appropriate.
And, I endorse what Pastey suggested; this is a *writing site* first and foremost, not a place for pointless arguments that end up requiring moderators interventions because the house rules are broken.
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted Feb 26, 2013
When we were still part of the BBC I wrote maybe 2 Entries in 3 or 4 years. Since we're independent I write Entries almost all the time (although some take a lot of time writing, so people my not notice that).
My own impression is that the whole process and PR got a *lot* better. It's probably not perfect, but I feel much more confident when submitting something and the whole process seems faster and go more smoothly. I also have the impression that I now have a lot more say in what happens *after* an Entry has been picked. If I don't like something a Sub-Editor does I can tell them and we work out a solution together instead of the Sub-Editors just changing everything in whichever way they want - an impression I had in the past.
So, yes, you should try it again.
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Secretly Not Here Any More Posted Feb 26, 2013
I'd just like to point out that my pet hate is people that love to use this site as a chatroom while denigrating or ignoring the EG. So I'm keeping schtum.
How long has it been possible to ban a person from posting in a particular conversation thread?
Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Feb 26, 2013
How long has it been possible to ban a person from posting in a particular conversation thread?
Alfster Posted Feb 26, 2013
Lanzababy - Guide Editor -
<"No idea what you mean Alfster by this:
"There is *old* diabolical/substandard entries in places, possibly not fully in the guide that, on occasin, I've thought - that could be better - I'd be up for tidynig some of those up on occasion! " [sic]
...but if these are your own substandard entries, then please feel free. The editorial volunteers do not have power nor permission to improve unedited entries. Nor would that be appropriate.">
I had a wander through some entries a fair while ago and some of them just semed to be paragraphs of little substance on subjects - now as I say, I can't remember if these were early edited/accepted entries or not. There was, I believe, a suggestion a while ago about updating/improving various entries that were deemed substandard by volunteers trawling through them who would highlight them. My enthusiam for coming up with new entries is pretty low but doing some work on older ones, I'd have a punt at that.
As for 'not being appropriate - if a researcher who did an entry has left I would consider it totally appropriate, if they are still here either pass back or have them allow it to be changed by someone else.
If the people who run this site want it to be 'the Guide' then some bulleting biting is required.
It seems moderation is hard-line, 'by the rules' these days - apply that no nonsense approach to sorting out the substnace of the guide and start showing people that 'we' mean business.
Was the [sic] for my mistyping "tidynig"?
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Alfster Posted Feb 26, 2013
Mr603
I have thought about what I could stick in it - haven't come up with much - ***I have thrown my hat in the ring to do some work on it***.
And considering some consultancy type of helping out work that I did for the current 'owners' and the buzz I got from what this could become I'll still make comments.
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Z Posted Feb 26, 2013
Alfster.. Are you and Lanza talking at cross purposes. She mentioned unedited entries... I'm 99.9% sure There's a process for updating Edited/Approved entries.
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Alfster Posted Feb 26, 2013
Thanks Z, I think we might be.
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Milla, h2g2 Operations Posted Feb 26, 2013
Edited entried can be updated, absolutely. Or, an alternative entry can be written, that complements it, or presents the topic in a different light. All sorts of opportunities
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Alfster Posted Feb 26, 2013
With the comment:
"we're here to build the Guide to Life, the Universe and Everything (Earth Edition), not to host a chat room "
That basically means we're up against Wikipedia - which means faster slicker edited guide entries.
For 'and everything' bit and "(personal)experience" that is subtely different and, unless it has changed, the not being allowed to use the first person 'me/I' sort of restricts that sometimes.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Feb 26, 2013
the [sic] was used because I c&p'd exactly as you had written it Alfster, complete with the various typos and grammatical errors.
Which is why I said I didn't really understand you.
I am still not sure - were you thinking of applying to become a volunteer? Or to start writing for the Guide?
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Feb 26, 2013
The requirement to write in the third person is there for good reasons. However, the Guide has always accepted Entries written in the first person should the subject matter necessitate it - eg A87720014
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Pastey Posted Feb 26, 2013
We're not competing with Wikipedia at all, they're a collection of published facts, we're a repository of knowledge.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Feb 26, 2013
What the Guide does not accept are 'opinion pieces', and these generally take the form of first person essays.
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Alfster Posted Feb 26, 2013
So, Ford Prefect's Guide entry to the Earth "(mostly) harmless" (depending on which version you own) would not be allowed in this Guide as it is an opinion piece? .
When the site was being mooted for transfer I discussed added value for the Hootooer on the move with a colleague on here and we had the idea of 'where to go in a particular town for a Hootoo-liked cafe/restaurant/place to visit' these go into opinion and more than anything are exactly what DNA's guide does but on a galactic scale.
Currently, you ahve to ask in the dreaded chatroom.
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Pastey Posted Feb 26, 2013
Not really, it's possible to review places without it being an opinion piece. I did one on my local boozer. It's the threads that hang off the entries that allow for updated and opinioned information.
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Lanzababy - Guide Editor Posted Feb 26, 2013
By opinion piece, I was referring to those such as some nonsensical belief or pet theory that occasionally is put into Peer Review.
A restaurant review is factual.
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