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H2G2 and fascism.

Post 1

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

I've had a post removed which included links to a couple of UAF events.

There's no way I can participate in a site which, albeit indirectly, supports fascism.

So this would be goodbye.

Bye.


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Post 2

Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master

Have sent you a message on Facebook.

You ought to challenge this, our borderline BNP supporters on h2g2 will have misleadingly phrased their Yikes and the mods who work at weekends are outsourced and look at posts in isolation.

Hopefully the hootoo PTB will reinstate the post if it didn't actually break any rules.

FB


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Post 3

HonestIago

I think it may have broken the rule of no advertising, but FB's right, you should talk to the Italics.

I'm not sure some of these people are borderline BNP supporters: in a couple of cases, there's no borderline about it.


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Post 4

Ferrettbadger. The Renegade Master

I haven't see the post in question (unsubbed from the thread, where people are deliberately misrepresenting the facts not much point in debating).

I do know that weekend mods are more twitchy and tend to err on the side of caution. I find our PTB tend toward being much more reasonable.

FB


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Post 5

myk

well i dont know much about BNP etc , but i see you have possibly started using Linux smiley - somersaultsmiley - goodlucksmiley - ok


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Post 6

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

HI - the no advertising thing was the problem but I think we know that wasn't the real reason why it was reported.

Lofty - yep, I've switched to Ubuntu. It's given me two problems:

1) There isn't a Linux version of Reaper (but there are ways around this)
2) I no longer have time to make a coffee, have a shower, read a newspaper and do a spot of decorating while waiting for the PC to boot up of a morning. smiley - winkeye


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Post 7

the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish

The BBC is not actually a mouth piece for the liberal elite but is infact part of a massive conspiricy to return England to being an all white, hetrosexual, god fearing country?


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Post 8

myk

smiley - laugh

Btw i wasnt laffing at being turned back to a, libral elite hetrosexual god fearing countrysmiley - ok

smiley - bigeyes doesnt sound to much like a bad idea to me though, apart from the god fearing bit smiley - biggrin

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>smiley - run

Just kiddingsmiley - somersaultsmiley - lurk


did you check out some of the open source alternatives Roy ? Lmms ( i think?) audacity, and a few others; does reaper run ok in wine? smiley - smiley


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Post 9

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

I just had another peek at the 'Fascism' thread.

I really can't be here any more.


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Post 10

Taff Agent of kaos

just to point out

if you go, the Nazis have won!!!

smiley - bat


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Post 11

the_jon_m - bluesman of the parish

ignoring that a large part of UAF are far left groups who are just as concerned with pushing their own political views and causing trouble as they are at stopping facism. And that scare as mnay people away from the cause as they do bring people in. And this means that it is only when the mainstream parties get involved do things happen, modern facists can't be forght by the far left, it has to be from the middle ground.

Ignoring the above ...

Look at the US, you've got Fox News, MSNBC and other news orgs / broadcasters that all have an adgenda ... and you must have seen the idiotic level that some of the debates in the US have lowered to ... the beeb has always maintained that it can't take sides, hence we have a higher level of debate


Since UAF claim to be vaugly political if you advertised for them link wise, you'd have to be equal with BNP links ... that isn't something I'd welcome.

Also since the BNP hates the BBC, and so do the far left, it has kinda got to be doing something right


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Post 12

2legs - Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side...

Roymondo... get back here now you big flouncy clouncy thing... smiley - grr

People who're racist scum exist, if even after they've read/heard all the evidence they still remain racist scum, there isn't anything you, or I or anyone can do. To attempt to do anything else to make them not be racist scum is to fall into teh entire mindset of them and their kind. Once someone has been given all the information, if they still don't come to the right* descision about it, the only option is to physically beat the living daylights out of them until they give in... that really doesn't do anything to solve the problem....

Albeit in a differnt field I guess somewhat I have a friend who was very high up in the marxist revolutionary movement in the UK back in the 60's and I think 70's, he had to leave eventually when he could no longer be associated with his revolutionary comraads who'd just given up some of their ideals and decided the only way to deal with the BMP and their ilk on the streets of London was to stab them to death... No matter how right you are you can't physically force anyone to believe in it, or ultimately you end up adopting the same faschist methods as which your ment to be opposing...

And having a post or two removed on HooToo sin't the end of th e bluddy world... You knwo the BBC have to be hyper overthe top on this shit...


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Post 13

myk

Hear hear smiley - erm

Hey Roy i'm pround of ya for getting involved about something you feel strongly about. Dont go m8! smiley - grovel There are allways going to be people like that about; like Taff says: just because one moves into your street doesnt mean you gotta pack up and head for Canada- eh? smiley - ok

I'll have to check out the racist thread; sounds like fun for a rainy daysmiley - cheers


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Post 14

Stealth "Jack" Azathoth

Dave? What are you doing, Dave?

I'm sorry that a thread I started has turned into a soap box for asshats, but just listen to Mark, he's right.


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Post 15

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

Folks, it's not the removed posts. I will not participate in this place as long as those folk are here. They are a reminder of bigotry that I can do without and they make the place stink.

Anyway, there's little here of interest to me now. Most of the folk are still good but I've moved on to festival and activism types.

Should anybody [i]really[/i] want to stay in touch I can be found on Facebook and elsewhere.

(albeit usually ranting...)


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Post 16

Primeval Mudd (formerly Roymondo)

Gah! and [i]this[/i] still doesn't work.

Hmph.


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Post 17

psychocandy - Moderation Team Leader

>I will not participate in this place as long as those folk are here. They are a reminder of bigotry that I can do without and they make the place stink.

I've been feeling the same way for some time now... the only thing that's stopped me is that I can't get on blogs or sites with lots of embedded stuff from the office and that's where I find the most opportunity to get online these days.

But yes, the person who yikesed your posts for removal used the "no advertising" rule as a loophole to harass you and others who advocate against violence and bigotry. It's sickening. Especially as that same individual has posted numerous homophobic comments and links to a web site for an organization that advocates and perpetuates it's own kind of violence, both which any number of people might find offensive.


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Post 18

HonestIago

Then we should go on a smiley - yikesing spree: report each and every post that foul, racist little man makes that crosses a line. Get some direct action going.


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Post 19

fords - number 1 all over heaven

Exactly. Fight fire with fire.


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Post 20

Taff Agent of kaos

<< I will not participate in this place as long as those folk are here.>>

that is cencorship of the worst kind and if everyone had that attitude this place would only get worse and not better

<> <>

that is a said of this site anyway

just be aware that it might be seen as a personal attack and harrasment if a lot of posts are unjustifiably smiley - yikesed

smiley - bat


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