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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

Entry: 112 Gripes About the French: Teaching Multiculturalism to the US Army, 1945 - A88032611
Author: Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated - U1590784

Twitter alerted us to this magnificent piece of wartime propaganda. I thought you'd enjoy it - particularly when I found out who wrote it.

smiley - dragon


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SashaQ - happysad

Thank you - magnificent indeed! Excellent selection of examples and illustrations, and great to see the book itself online smiley - ok Wise words "The right to speak involves the duty to listen"

The only bit I found slightly confusing was "From the looks of Paris, France had an easy war. No, no, they didn't. Here are some statistics about what it cost them." - 'here' is the book, not h2g2.

smiley - ok


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

smiley - ok Thanks for reading!

Yes, that's a quote from the book. I'd better see if I can clear that up. smiley - run


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

See if that reads better.


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h2g2 Guide Editors

Excellent - that is fully clear now, thank you. Just one typo 'rench politicians are corrupt.'

smiley - ok


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

smiley - ok Thanks!


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You can call me TC

I wasn't sure what to expect under this title, but as usual, it was very enlightening.

I was immediately reminded of an American lady, a forces wife, who told me that when they first moved to Germany and came to live "on the economy" (US-speak for "not in the designated villages attached to the bases") they were given a pamphlet which had helpful information for fitting in with the local community. Such details as: you are expected to hang your bedding out of the window to air but it is frowned on if it is still there after 10 am.

Also, on reading, I was reminded of my time in ca 1974 as an au pair in France. I have tried to obliterate my memories of the number of underpants per week I had to wash, (certainly not 7!) and the state of said pants.

Sorry TMI.

Are there any figures as to how many copies of the book were circulated and how many were actually read by the GIs?


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You can call me TC

Oh, and perhaps you could elaborate on who Margaret Mead was. I had heard the name but had to check who she was.

smiley - senior I had her confused with Margaret Mitchell !!


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

smiley - rofl I used to live in Germany as students and teachers, and listened to both AFN and BFBS. I learned that expression, 'on the economy', even though I hardly ever met any US military personnel. Mostly, I knew German military personnel because I sometimes taught at a military base. I got more anecdotes from the 'other side', such as 'do you know what those Americans did? They're awful!'

They issued 200,000 copies of the book. I don't have any figures on how many GIs read it. smiley - laugh

That's a good idea about Margaret Mead - I'll do that! smiley - ok


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

See if that paragraph works now. I tried to give the flavour of Margaret Mead quickly. She was a household name once, in a kind of racy-academic way. Responsible for the sentence I kept hearing at university, 'Take Anthro! It will change your life!' smiley - winkeye

Actually, the idea that Ms Mead was the sister-in-law of Leo Rosten, author of 'The Joys of Yiddish', was almost too good to be true.


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Superfrenchie

This is really interesting ! smiley - ok Thank you.
You've made me curious about Margaret Mead and Leo Rosten (I'd never heard of them). smiley - smiley


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

Thanks for giving it a once-over! smiley - hug

Margaret Mead made anthropology a sexy discipline. And Leo Rosten will make you laugh. Try him on Open Library. smiley - smiley


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Galaxy Babe - eclectic editor

Great entry, thanks for the readsmiley - cheers

Re: Twitter. I am not there very often (not enough hours in the day, it's a real rabbit hole) but I read a posting yesterday from an ex-pat in Germany requesting views on whether they should move back to the UK - some of the responses were quite shocking in their anti-UK tone but the overwhelming majority said "stay in Germany" - in fact I did not read one suggestion that they should return to good old Blighty. Brexit has taken its toll and with the threat of a toy-less Christmas looming, the natives are growing restless. Chuck in the "vaccine-reluctant" who had to be sacked from their care jobs because the government made Covid vaccinations for care staff mandatory, now there's an overwhelming shortage of carers(smiley - doh), the lack of delivery drivers causing empty supermarket shelves, fruit & veg pickers who never even arrived from their native countries this year, mature pigs being killed by their own farmers because there's a lack of abattoir staff and butchers and you can understand why.

GB
smiley - galaxysmiley - headhurts


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

I agree, GB, Twitter should be used judiciously, and it can be a real eye-opener!

I'm sorry to hear about the toy situation. In view of that, we might consider asking our guide entry writers to come up with some DIY toy entries? smiley - bigeyes


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You can call me TC

There's a Create idea for you: home made Christmas presents.


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Dmitri Gheorgheni - Freshly Vaccinated

You are a genius! Consider it done, if I can talk the Create Team into it. smiley - ta


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SashaQ - happysad

Congratulations! smiley - bubbly


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