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Peer Review: A87895282 - 'The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe' - the BBC Television Series

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Bluebottle

Entry: 'The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe' - the BBC Television Series - A87895282
Author: Bluebottle - U43530

What better way is there to celebrate 1st December than with this Christmassy classic that has snow and smiley - santa in.

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A87895282 - 'The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe' - the BBC Television Series

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SashaQ - happysad - Editor

No better way indeed smiley - biggrin I really loved this series in 1988 smiley - ok and the Entry contains fascinating details about it.

"Of the titular characters of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Aslan's is successful" - I'm not sure what this means...

" retains an affectionate place in the hearts of many who saw it on first broadcast, and it continues to captivate children today."

smiley - ok Excellent!


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Bluebottle

"Of the titular characters of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Aslan's is successful" - I'm not sure what this means...

Ah – I had planned to say that of all the titular characters in 'The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe' the lion is the cuddliest, the smiley - witch's performance is pure pantomime, and the wardrobe was a little wooden…

Anyway, I've tweaked the entry.

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Bluebottle

Oh – and I did try hard to find out whether the two wolves that appear in 'The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe' are actually wolves and not wolf-like smiley - dog, and if they were Quentin and Queenie, the wolves that had appeared in 'The Box of Delights', but to no avail. I'm afraid I'm not very good at recognising smiley - dog and wolf breeds.

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SashaQ - happysad - Editor

Yes, that would be a challenge to work out if the wolf was actually Quentin and/or Queenie...

Just reading this again, I wonder if the Novel section is as clear as it could be... You have the first paragraph mentioning influences on the story, then inspiration for a character followed by more story inspiration. The next paragraph is story inspiration, character inspiration, story inspiration too...

Footnote 7 is tantalising, as it only mentions one of the two adaptations. Perhaps mention both there, and then you can tweak the end of Footnote 8 to just say 'The Church was involved in making the 1979 animated film.'

The mention of Aslan walking in a real forest is a bit of a non sequitur, as the quote doesn't mention it...

Do you say what Cair Paravel is?

Yes, the Aslan cuddly scenes were irresistible - very memorable smiley - biggrin

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Bluebottle

Changes made.smiley - ok

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SashaQ - happysad - Editor

smiley - ok

I'm having another quick read of this smiley - ok

Edmund Spenser still seems a bit out of place in that paragraph, but that's a minor point.

"However getting Aslan to walk realistically in real forests with uneven surfaces and tree roots to negotiate was much more challenging than acting on a perfectly flat studio floor."

I'm not clear what the 'However' is saying here. Was the location footage not very good compared to the studio footage because of the challenges?

I still think your concluding paragraph is superb smiley - magic


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Bluebottle

Thanks for the read-through. I've rearranged the inspiration paragraphs and the Aslan sentence so they should flow better now.smiley - ok

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SashaQ - happysad - Editor

Congratulations! smiley - bubbly


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Gnomon - time to move on

For the subeditor (Hi SashaQ!)

You could link to A526682 Dunluce Castle.

A few minor tweaks that I would have spotted if I'd seen this in Peer Review:

Difference with the Novel -->
Differences from the Novel

picked up by an eagles -->
picked up by an eagle

made the actors' shoes and look like -->
made the actors' shoes look like

the heroes castle -->
the heroes' castle


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Bluebottle

I see you're doing read-throughs of Narnia entries before they get to Peer Review, once they're in Peer Review and now even after they've left Peer Reviewsmiley - yikes Any chance you could give a read-through of my Narnia entries before I've written them? I'm considering writing one in about 2021 or 2022 on 'The Silver Chair' (assuming it gets made) smiley - silly.

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Gnomon - time to move on

I think the choice of Graham Norton in the role of Puddleglum in the future film will be particularly inspired.


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Bluebottle

True, though I don't want to come across as ageist, I must admit I had expected Eustace to be played by someone younger than David Jason.smiley - erm
As for the twist that the Lady of the Green Kirtle was Susan all along – as she had been seduced by the insidious glamour of lipstick – well, I for one did not see that coming.smiley - yikes

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SashaQ - happysad - Editor

Hi Gnomon smiley - biggrin

Thanks for the readthrough - much appreciated smiley - ok

Bluebottle musn't forget to subscribe to the new version A87910310

I had a few questions during subbing:

"it was successful enough to lead to three more Narnia adaptations over the following two years."

What were the three adaptations?

"Even after Edmund enters Narnia and meets the White Witch he denies Narnia's existence, though he has secretly been bribed by the witch with promises of Turkish Delight if he brings his family to her. He also inadvertently reveals that Mr Tumnus aided Lucy before."

Did the White Witch bribe Edmund to deny Narnia's existence? Who does he reveal the information to?

" he instructed BBC Enterprises to pre-sell the series internationally in co-production with WonderWorks, an American television company co-produced by PBS and Walt Disney."

What does it mean the company was co-produced, or is it that the TV series was a co-production with WonderWorks, PBS and Walt Disney?

A plaster cast of the clay sculpture of Aslan's head was taken, but what was used to make the head itself?

"It was much harder for Aslan to walk realistically in real forests with uneven surfaces and tree roots to negotiate than crossing a perfectly flat studio floor."

Sorry I'm still not sure what you're trying to say with that - was his walking noticeably poor outside the studio, or was it overall good enough?

smiley - ok


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Bluebottle

smiley - modYou could change the sentence:
"it was successful enough to lead to three more Narnia adaptations over the following two years."
To:
"it was successful enough to lead to the adaptation of three more Narnia novels over the following two years."
You could add Prince Caspian, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader and The Silver Chair in a footnote.

smiley - mod"Even after Edmund enters Narnia and meets the White Witch he denies Narnia's existence, though he has secretly been bribed by the witch with promises of Turkish Delight if he brings his family to her. He also inadvertently reveals that Mr Tumnus aided Lucy before."
Change to:
"When Edmund follows Lucy into Narnia he inadvertently reveals to the White Witch that Mr Tumnus aided Lucy before and is tempted by promises of Turkish Delight if he brings his family to her. Yet even after he has been there, Edmund still denies Narnia's existence to his family."

smiley - modChange to:
WonderWorks, an American television production company co-owned by PBS and Walt Disney

smiley - modChange:
Aslan also appeared in scenes filmed on location. It was much harder for Aslan to walk realistically in real forests with uneven surfaces and tree roots to negotiate than crossing a perfectly flat studio floor.
To:
Aslan also appeared in scenes filmed on location, however in these he is predominantly stationary. Although Aslan could walk convincingly when crossing a perfectly flat studio floor, it was much harder for Aslan to walk realistically in real forests with uneven surfaces and tree roots to negotiate.

smiley - huhWhat was used to make the head itself?
Good question – they don't actually specify in the extras. It could be rubber, something rubbery and flexible. Although it would be nice to know it is only a minor matter, so you could paper over it by tweaking the sentences to read:
The head began as a clay sculpture, then a plaster cast was taken and used as a mould. The finished head was covered in foam.

Hope this helpssmiley - ok

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SashaQ - happysad - Editor

smiley - ok Excellent updates, thanks smiley - biggrin

If you're happy with it now, I'll send it on its way smiley - ok


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Bluebottle

Press the button!smiley - ok

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SashaQ - happysad - Editor

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