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Bluebottle

Entry: The Ultimate Aardman Animated Film Guide: 2015 - 2019 - A87954853
Author: Bluebottle - U43530

Happy 2020!

Should this be accepted, the original Aardman film guide entry may need a tweak.

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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

Yay Shaun the Sheep smiley - sheep

Is the football team mixed rather than all male, causing the Bechdel Test 'dodgy pass'?

I haven't seen Farmageddon yet, but it looks good fun! smiley - ufo It will be good to see how well it does overall in due course smiley - ok


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Bluebottle

Thanks for your comments there.smiley - ok

Football is a game – and therefore gender neutral - but in this case the rival team are all men. So is a discussion about playing a smiley - football game against a team of men by definition a conversation about men (in which case it fails), or a conversation about a game (in which case it passes)?smiley - huh
Personally I lean towards the latter, on the grounds that football players are largely irrelevant. Take any smiley - football team – let's say Nottingham Forest, which was founded in 1865. This is considered today to be the same team, even though no players are still playing who had played back when the club founded: therefore football players are irrelevant.

I've tweaked the Farmaggedon ending.
'Farmaggedon' – which had a budget of $25million and has only been released in the UK, Ireland, France, Germany, Australia and New Zealand – has made over $32million to date, and has overtaken 'Missing Link' – which had a budget of $100 million and made only $26million worldwide. (It seems that an animated film with a Darwinian theme did not make any money in the Southern States – who could have predicted that, eh? This may well a loss that Laika Studios cannot recover from (particularly when you add marketing costs. Aardman's marketing budget would be quite low as they've only released in six countries, but Laika released worldwide so their marketing budget could be as high as $100million). 'Missing Link' being given the Golden Globe Award a couple of days award might be a golden handshake… Have they reached the (shoe) event horizon?)

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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

"So is a discussion about playing a football game against a team of men by definition a conversation about men (in which case it fails), or a conversation about a game (in which case it passes)?"

Depends on the discussion, but I don't know exactly what was said so I can't guess what "discuss the opposing team" means... The Bechdel Test website says the film fails, but they didn't notice the two female characters speaking, so you've gone one better there!

"who could have predicted that, eh?"

Who indeed? smiley - raisedeyebrowsmiley - laugh


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Bluebottle

On reflection I'll just change it to 'fail', though it definitely passes two of the three tests but doesn't clearly pass the third. (Interesting that the Bechdel Test website doesn't mention the second pass –perhaps because the Stone Age female characters are portrayed as heavy-set Neanderthals and not blatantly feminine, the reviewers didn't realise that Gravelle was a female character?)

Incidentally, an 'Event Horizon' can mean a point of no return, and losing over $100million can do that to a company, however the reason I said 'Shoe Event Horizon' is that Laika is owned by the owners of Nike Shoes.

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SashaQ - happysad and 'slightly mad'

"perhaps because the Stone Age female characters are portrayed as heavy-set Neanderthals and not blatantly feminine, the reviewers didn't realise that Gravelle was a female character?" - highly possible...

Just reading the Entry again, I can follow the plot of Early Man, but I wonder if it could be made clearer - 'surviving cavemen' suggests we're in a world where cavemen and dinosaurs co-existed, 'the heat' refers to the asteroid rather than the weather, 'crater' means the asteroid was large enough to create a valley as well as being small enough to be kicked about?

"A young alien lands near the farm and finds himself lost at Shaun's farm. While Shaun the Sheep tries to help the ET phone home," - better to avoid using a gendered pronoun for the alien?

The supermarket chains were Gateway and Safeway?

The 'Into the Future' section is good, to lead into the next Entry in the series, but probably needs less detail so it won't date too quickly. How has Farmageddon been getting on in the last few weeks? smiley - bigeyes


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