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A87918989 - Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures

Post 1

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

Entry: Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures - A87918989
Author: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor - U1314679

This took me quite a long time to write and in the end I couln't kepp my goal of 1500 words maximum, but I stayed below 2000. To be honest I'm glad I'm done with this and can go on with the Renaissance.


A87918989 - Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures

Post 2

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

there was a post by bobstafford which I will now copy here to have everything in one place:

bobstafford Started conversation 3 Hours Ago

Hello Tave this is a very impressive entry and I enjoyed reading it.
I have noticed a few anomalies you might wish to check.

1.The Pest A strain of Bubonic Plague Yersinia pestis or today known as Y-Pestis.
The estimated death toll 30% to 50% percent of the population of the time.
2.Cloisonné
known as Cloisonné work inlaid enamel Cloisonné is an enclosure enamel technique.
3,Christianity was spreading to former 'pagan lands.
4,From about the 12th Century onwards the Gothic period spread from France to central and parts of southern Europe.
5.Are you referring to the style of architecture?
6. To produce flat glass. Molten glass on a metal rod to form a flat sheet, this was cut and set in the lead.
7.Maybe at first paing was? paing = painting? Chemicals were painted on the glass and heated to bind the chemical paint to bond permanently with the glass.

Well done
smiley - cheers


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Post 3

Dmitri Gheorgheni

smiley - magic An excellent summary, I think. You've told them just enough to be interesting.

Here's some proofreading:

>>...when especially germanic warbands wandered through Europe<<

This is open to misinterpretation by English speakers, who as you know are prone to this. How about:

'When warlike bands of Germanic and other tribes wandered through Europe...'

>>'pagans'<<

I wouldn't put pagans in quotes. (I know, you wanted to point out that there was nothing wrong with paganism from your point of view. Quite right.)
Instead, how about:

pagansThe word 'pagan' comes from the Latin word paganus, meaning 'someone who lives in the country'. Christianity was originally an urban religion, passed from city to city.


>>Benedictine monasteries which should have a great influence on science and arts<<

'should' in English is prescriptive. Instead, say:

'Benedictine monasteries, which went on to have a great influence on science and arts...'

>>byzanthinan archetypes<< = 'Byzantine archetypes'

Just a note: 'Christian' is always capitalised in English. It's just a rule: Muslim, Jewish, etc, are also always capitalised.

>>The Middle Ages ended with the pest...<<

See comment about the silliness of English speakers above. Change to:

'The Middle Ages ended with a plague which greatly reduced....'

No comma in there, either. The reason why is complicated, so just forget it. smiley - winkeye

That's what I found with a once-over-lightly reading. smiley - smiley Which I thoroughly enjoyed.


A87918989 - Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures

Post 4

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

bob: thanks a lot for your comments smiley - smiley I'm happy to hear you liked this Entry.



Hello Tave this is a very impressive entry and I enjoyed reading it.
I have noticed a few anomalies you might wish to check.

1. corected pest > plague
2. I'll look into that
3. changed that
4. I added one more sentence about the Gothic arts style
6. I didn't want to put too much detail into how glass was produced as we have 2 very thourough Entries about the subject of window glass (I linked to them)
7. corrected that, thanks


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Post 5

bobstafford

Hello Tav
I pleased the comments were helpful, pleased I was of help. smiley - smiley
Hi Dmitri
I am pleased we agree this a very interesting entry. smiley - ok


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Post 6

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

Thanks a lot Dmitri! smiley - smiley I'm very happy that you also liked the Entry.

I made all these changes.


A87918989 - Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures

Post 7

Dmitri Gheorgheni

smiley - ok


A87918989 - Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures

Post 8

minorvogonpoet

I liked this introduction to Mediaeval art. smiley - smiley I suppose when I think of Mediaeval art, I tend to think of monasteries and cathedrals, illuminated manuscripts and stained glass windows. All these are well covered.

However, I was a bit confused by paragraph 5, where you say that the Gothic style was more naturalistic but the Byzantine stlye led smoothly into the Renaissance. This suggests the Renaissance style was less naturalistic. Surely this isn't the case?


A87918989 - Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures

Post 9

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

(there is a separate Entry about Byzantine arts in PR: A87918970)

Many of the Byzantine pictures/mosaics were indeed highly stylized and not naturalistic at all.smiley - smiley


A87918989 - Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures

Post 10

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

... and no, the Renaissance was not less naturalistic, I didn't say that it wasn't. I said in paragraph 5 that the Gothic period was much longer north of the Alps than for instance in Italy, where it almost did not exist. So in Italy Romanesque was used for a very long time and then almost instantly came the Renaissance age. North of the Alps the Gothic period did not only start sooner but also ended much later when the Renaissance style was already used in Italy.


A87918989 - Arts of the Middle Ages - sacred words and sacred pictures

Post 11

minorvogonpoet

Sorry if I asked a confusing question.smiley - sadface

Perhaps what I'm driving at is that, if the highly Byzantine art developed into Renaissance art, the naturalistic element in Renaissance art must have come from some other influence - the study of Greek and Roman art, I suppose.


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Post 12

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

Ok, I'll work on that paragraph so it actually says what I meant.

Thanks for your comments, I'll lewt you know when I'm done.smiley - smiley


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Post 13

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

Ok, I just aded half a sentence to say the Gothic period was not no-existent but very short in southern Europe.


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Post 14

Dmitri Gheorgheni

smiley - ok Looks good.

Could you start a new paragraph with:

>>The Gothic style was more naturalistic and refined ...<<

That way you'll have one paragraph dealing with the geographical spread of the Gothic, and a new paragraph dealing with general characteristics of the Gothic?


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Post 15

Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor

smiley - ok did that


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Post 16

Dmitri Gheorgheni

smiley - ok


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