A Conversation for Ask h2g2

Sithee 'ere, lass

Post 4341

Kaeori

Happy birthday, Gnomon! smiley - smiley

And I would love to share some crumpets with you - but I'll pass on the scrumpy, it would go straight to my head!


Essex Girl

Post 4342

Gnomon - time to move on

Does the phrase "Essex Girl" have any meaning, other than "a girl from Essex, England"?


Essex Girl

Post 4343

Potholer

As far as 'Essex girl' jokes go, stereotypically :- Blonde, airheaded, slutty, white-stilletoed. Often called Sharon or Tracy, works at supermarket checkout.


Essex Girl

Post 4344

plaguesville

Oi!
I have two cousins who are Essex girls and they are both very nice. Except they inherited their mother's laugh and can stop hens laying at a range of 5 miles.


Fidelity

Post 4345

You can call me TC

I've finally got round to reading a huge backlog. It's 4 am and anyone who has a snoring partner will know that there's no POINT in trying to get back to sleep. So what better way to use the time than this. I am reading from somewhere around the 3800s and will no doubt not be able to resist putting in some - what now may seem - very diverse non seqs.

Question from out-of-touch expat. Ictoan - what's a BYF?

I notice that Mycroft hasn't been seen since February (rather like me, but I have thrown a few comments into other conversations) Was it something we said? Has anyone noticed that he has a really cool U number : 177277?

This is really cosy, sitting reading all your gems of the last couple of months.

To join two topics from way back. The devil appeared at one point and we were reminded that there is always a Devil's hill, or devil's way wherever you live. Where I come from, we had a **Devil's Dyke**!!. (And a Devil's punchbowl.)

I am still reeling from Gnomon's mention of a boss in Post 3889. That guy must have a hard time. My impression was always that Gnomon is too great and wonderful an entity to actually be subordinate to anyone else.




Plaguesville found "Hundehütte" for kennel which is right, but on automatically translating the German into the French, dictionary.com gave him what would translate back into Hütte des Hundes - with the German use of the word "Hütte" for foundry - if you get my meaning... The German for "in the doghouse" as in "out of favour" could be "in Ungnaden" ... can't think of a colloquial expression off hand.

In post 3961, Potholer quotes an example of 18th Century English, where all the nouns are capitalised (except in "felt only flat like the rest" - where, in German, at least, "the rest", being a noun like any other, would also be capitalised.) There certainly seems to be a system to it, though, as verbs, for example, are not capitalised willy nilly.

So did we find a satisfactory answer to the question(s) "when" and "why" did the use of capitals for all nouns cease in written English? (Maybe the passage quoted was a transcription of a hand-written report and the usage continued in handwriting for longer than in printing)

OK - I've got up to Post 4000 and the rest of the house is waking up now and I've got cold feet. Will join you all again later!


Fidelity

Post 4346

Gnomon - time to move on

>>Gnomon is too great and wonderful an entity to actually be subordinate to anyone else

smiley - biggrin

Unfortunately, we all have to work.


Principal or head teacher

Post 4347

Kaeori

Not all of us, Gnomon! smiley - winkeye

TC, great to see you're back! smiley - hug

Now, can someone please explain to me what the difference is between a 'principal' and a 'head teacher' in UK state schools? - because I can't find any reason why some choose to be called one rather than the other!

smiley - cappuccino


Principal or head teacher

Post 4348

Wand'rin star

I think it's a generation thing. The older the school the more likely it is to have a head (sometimes referred to as such). Even older schools had headmasters or headmistresses (eg the ones I went to in the dark ages)smiley - star


Fidelity

Post 4349

IctoanAWEWawi

TC, a BYF is what I guess I must be! Since I get the impression that the average age of the frequent posters here is, at least until recently, somewhere in the forties, and I haven't made 30 yet, I must be a Boring Young Fart.

Although as that is phonetically the same as BIF, scouse slang for a dirty slapper (male or female - and akin, I guess, to trailer trash from the US of A) taken from the bin company Biffa, I perhaps should choose something else.

Not that that makes you all BOFs, oh no, erm, perhaps I'll stop now while I have a chance....


Fidelity

Post 4350

Potholer

Actually, I'm more a BOFH than a BOF.


Sithee 'ere, lass

Post 4351

Gone again

Belatedly, it occurs to me that an invitation to sit down would be phrased "sit thee down, lass", while "Sithee 'ere, lass" is a somewhat stilted way of saying "(now) see here, young woman" - the "thee" is superfluous, I think.

Pattern-chaser

"Who cares, wins"


BYFy - BOFHs

Post 4352

IctoanAWEWawi

Me too, but not on BritEng! Unfortunately.....


Sithee 'ere, lass

Post 4353

Potholer

The 'thee' may be technically superfluous, but for ease of pronunciation, 'Sithee' seems superior to a contraction of 'See here', since the latter seems to carry more risk of blurring into 'See-ear if speaking quickly. 'Sithee' also seems to fit better with a hard northern pronunciation. ('Look here' is a little more robust than 'See here').


BIFFO from the bin company?

Post 4354

Is mise Duncan

I always thought it stood for Big Ignorant erm...Fellah From Offaly smiley - laugh


BIFFO from the bin company?

Post 4355

Gnomon - time to move on

smiley - laugh


BIFFO from the bin company?

Post 4356

IctoanAWEWawi

but that'd be BIFFO smiley - erm


BIFFO from the bin company?

Post 4357

Munchkin

Headmaster isn't that old a term. I had one in primary school. Although it was a principal in secondary. I assume it is just an evolving term, but for why I have no idea.


BIFFO from the bin company?

Post 4358

kelli - ran 2 miles a day for 2012, aiming for the same for 2013

I always thoguht Principal was the American term for Head Master/Mistress. Didn't know we had them here.


Cravats

Post 4359

Wand'rin star

Looking for a pattern on the web (to take to my Shanghainese tailor) I discovered the history of this interesting formal style of neckerchief. Guess which language the word comes from originally. smiley - star


Cravats

Post 4360

Wand'rin star

Oh, and Kelli's quite right. It's well known that the British have no principles (according to the French who referred to us as "perfidious Albion")smiley - star


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