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Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Started conversation Aug 22, 2012
FYI: while Republicans meet in Florida, wildlife people are keeping an eye on the local monkeys. Especially one.
Apparently, there's a rhesus macaque that's a folk hero in Tampa. He's eluded the wildlife authorities for more than 3 years. And he's a political symbol: his ability to avoid capture and outwit the nature cops reminds those liberty-loving Floridians of their feelings about freedom, independence, and their distaste for government. They regularly feed the monkey and misdirect the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission, so the report goes. They wear t-shirts that say, 'Go, monkey, go!'
Of course, as you and I and Willem know, it isn't that simple. Why isn't this little guy with his friends and family in one of the Silver River macaque colonies? Yes, we KNOW it's an Asian monkey. Some...er, intelligent person, back in the 1930s, fellow with the unlikely first name of 'Colonel', set some monkeys free. Yeah, that's an old story. The monkeys were much smarter than Colonel Tooey. So what else is new? He didn't know they could swim off that island? Sheesh.
Monkeys should be with monkeys, not lonely and scrounging meals behind restaurants, even if the citrus there grows on trees. There's a nice trapper fellow (think Taggart in 'Eureka') who's already got 17 rescued tigers and a ballet of tortoises, and has lined up a nice gf for our guy. But no, he's gotta be a symbol for somebody's idea of freedom.
Oh, and these are the people whose governor won't forbid people from packing firearms in front of the Convention Center. We refuse to comment about Republicans, guns, what the Second Amendment does or does not say, and the irony of it all, as we feel we're already in enough hot water with FloridaSailor.
I really recommend this brilliantly-written and thoughtful piece by Jon Mooallem in the New York Times Magazine:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/magazine/tampa-monkey.html?_r=1&WT.mc_id=NYT-MAG-E-EXT-MAG-YAH-0822-L2&nl=el&pagewanted=all
And Willem, we want to know what you think about the monkeys of Silver River, Florida.
In the meantime, those candidates should be on the lookout for a photo op. That monkey's Facebook page has 82,000 'likes'.
Since you're probably more interested in wild monkeys than feral politicians, here's a site with more info about Silver River and its wildlife:
http://www.wildlifesouth.com/Locations/Florida/SilverRiver.html
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Willem Posted Aug 22, 2012
Hi Dmitri, I'll have to do a bit of reading first before I could make a sensible comment! It seems overall that Florida has a huge problem with all sorts of introduced creatures.
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted Aug 22, 2012
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/13/us/florida-largest-python/index.html
I'd settle for a monkey
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Aug 22, 2012
Big snake.
Yes, Willem, you're right - it's tropical, and there are a lot of invasive species.
For instance, an office plant that's harmless in someplace like Philadelphia, the asparagus fern, grows through buildings in Florida.
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Aug 23, 2012
(I instantly thought of the burmese python myself, prof, having just edited a few lines about it and it's by now huge family, whose members are capable of eating almost everything in the Everglades, gators included )
Now back to the monkey at hand - or not as it were
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted Aug 23, 2012
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Aug 23, 2012
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Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Aug 23, 2012
One thing they introduced, way back, was the walking catfish. It's been slowly migrating northward. This is a seriously creepy crittur.
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ Posted Aug 23, 2012
Not to mention the Pacific Northwest Tree Octopus:
http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Aug 23, 2012
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Willem Posted Aug 23, 2012
OK, pacific octopi aside, the big exotic problem animals in southern Florida seem to be pythons, iguanas, wild pigs, cats and rats. Monkeys not so bad it would seem. And everything's better with them. Not always actually! Well anyways we'll have to see how things pan out ... a different kind of ecology might very well arise, as some of the newcomers prove impossible to eradicate and a new kind of balance emerges.
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Aug 23, 2012
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Florida Sailor All is well with the world Posted Aug 24, 2012
Now now Dmitri I'm mostly harmless. Although I do reserve the right to reply, I like and respect you most of the time. Please don't mess with my monkey! Although he wanders quite close the where I sit I have not seen him other than the occasional news footage. The story I heard was that the monkeys at Silver Springs were originally brought in for the Tarzan movies filmed there in the 1930's (Johnny Wiessmuller era). One of the big attractions in Miami (a good six hour drive from here) is the Monkey Jungle, where the people walk through in cage tunnels while the monkeys run free.
Willem, the wild hogs go back to the early Spanish settlements. They can be mean.
Some of the most damaging introductions have been plants, such as water hyacinth, Brazilian Pepper trees and Kudzu (thankfully the last has not moved this far south yet).
The one introduced species most disruptive for the average Floridian is the "Love Bug". First introduced in the mid 1970s in the belief they would eat the mosquito larvae, they emerge twice a year in a mating frenzy. During this period they "fly united" hence the name.
Having no natural enemies, except the automobile, their population has exploded! Driving for more than a few hours outside urban areas requires cleaning windscreens and radiator grills. They are also quite corrosive to paint when splattered. They are, apparently, drawn to the smell of exhaust fumes.
FS
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor Posted Aug 24, 2012
Florida has way too many bugs. I'm a-scairt of that place.
And I say this as a Southerner who knows what a kudzu-covered house looks like.
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Malabarista - now with added pony Posted Aug 24, 2012
Around here, muntjac deer are a problem - and rhododendrons!
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Amy Pawloski, aka 'paper lady'--'Mufflewhump'?!? click here to find out... (ACE) Posted Aug 24, 2012
Scotch broom, pampas grass and blackberries, here.
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Pastey Posted Aug 24, 2012
it's Chavs here, although the locals call them Scallies
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. Posted Aug 24, 2012
Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
Icy North Posted Aug 24, 2012
When I first became a conservation volunteer, I was told to keep an eye out for the wooden enemies. I thought this was some invasive tree species, until I realised they were saying 'wood anemones'.
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Monkey Business in Florida - No, NOT Politicians, Macaques
- 1: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Aug 22, 2012)
- 2: Willem (Aug 22, 2012)
- 3: Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. (Aug 22, 2012)
- 4: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Aug 22, 2012)
- 5: Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ (Aug 23, 2012)
- 6: Icy North (Aug 23, 2012)
- 7: Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. (Aug 23, 2012)
- 8: Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ (Aug 23, 2012)
- 9: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Aug 23, 2012)
- 10: Pierre de la Mer ~ sometimes slightly worried but never panicking ~ (Aug 23, 2012)
- 11: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Aug 23, 2012)
- 12: Willem (Aug 23, 2012)
- 13: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Aug 23, 2012)
- 14: Florida Sailor All is well with the world (Aug 24, 2012)
- 15: Dmitri Gheorgheni, Post Editor (Aug 24, 2012)
- 16: Malabarista - now with added pony (Aug 24, 2012)
- 17: Amy Pawloski, aka 'paper lady'--'Mufflewhump'?!? click here to find out... (ACE) (Aug 24, 2012)
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- 19: Prof Animal Chaos.C.E.O..err! C.E.Idiot of H2G2 Fools Guild (Official).... A recipient of S.F.L and S.S.J.A.D.D...plus...S.N.A.F.U. (Aug 24, 2012)
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