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SEx: What colour is ice?
Yvonne aka india Started conversation Apr 12, 2007
Water is often represeted by blue colours in images, and if asked, most people say that ice is either clear or white. How come when looking at snowfields and glaciers the ice usually appears blue coloured? Is this something to do with impurities?
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Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... Posted Apr 12, 2007
Water appears blue/green when in sufficient quantities due to copper oxides and similar inpurities... I see no reason why large amounts of ice wouldn't contain the same impurities.
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IctoanAWEWawi Posted Apr 12, 2007
Ice being clear is pure ice formed slowly and under pressure (I think) hence why the ice at way down in the ice caps is clear. White ice is due to the ice having lots of air bubles and impurities in it. Same reason why polar bear fur looks white when it is actually clear.
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Yvonne aka india Posted Apr 12, 2007
Thanks for this. This is a debate going on a few days ago after seeing a documentary. The glacial ice seemed so blue we weren't sure if it was the impurities you mentioned, or something to do with internal light refraction.
I'd heard about polar bear fur, something about them being black but the fur making them appear white due to it being clear.
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Thatprat - With a new head/wall interface mechanism Posted Apr 12, 2007
Ice is actually blue. As has been said, it only looks white because of air (bubbles) in the ice.
You can see the real colour of pure ice if you look at an iceberg.
Here's some pictures : http://www.hickerphoto.com/blue-iceberg-9317-pictures.htm
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Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit Posted Apr 12, 2007
The answer to the question depends entirely on how much of the substance you're talking about.
A glass of water = no color. A glass of ice = the same. It's completely transparent, reflects no light, and therefore has no color.
A large mass of water = blue. A large mass of ice = the same. Once you get enough of it together, it starts absorbing light from the red end of the spectrum, reflecting blue.
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted Apr 12, 2007
I agree. Ice is blue. Only slightly, but if you look at lumps of it about 6 foot across the effect is quite noticeable.
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Aurora Posted Apr 12, 2007
You can see the blue colour in this photo of quite a lot (well, 50000 tons) of pure water, without a blue sky above, taken in the Kamiokande Neutrino Detector:
http://www.aip.org/png/images/deth20.jpg
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Seth of Rabi Posted Apr 13, 2007
I go fishing off Lagos most weekends and ten miles or so out, the sea turns exactly this colour even with 100% cloud cover.
Water absorbs very little light but what little absorption there is is about a hundred times stronger in the red end of the spectrum than the blue so the transmitted light of both pure water and pure ice is a pale turquoise blue.
There is a very readable layman's explanation at
http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF7/773.html
... and a more technical one at
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/vibrat.html#blue
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Arnie Appleaide - Inspector General of the Defenders of Freedom Posted Apr 13, 2007
Cool picture Aurora!
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KB Posted Apr 16, 2007
Of course, it all depends on the colour of the light.
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SEx: What colour is ice?
- 1: Yvonne aka india (Apr 12, 2007)
- 2: Mr. Dreadful - But really I'm not actually your friend, but I am... (Apr 12, 2007)
- 3: IctoanAWEWawi (Apr 12, 2007)
- 4: Yvonne aka india (Apr 12, 2007)
- 5: Thatprat - With a new head/wall interface mechanism (Apr 12, 2007)
- 6: Blatherskite the Mugwump - Bandwidth Bandit (Apr 12, 2007)
- 7: Gnomon - time to move on (Apr 12, 2007)
- 8: Aurora (Apr 12, 2007)
- 9: Seth of Rabi (Apr 13, 2007)
- 10: Arnie Appleaide - Inspector General of the Defenders of Freedom (Apr 13, 2007)
- 11: KB (Apr 16, 2007)
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