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kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? Posted Dec 17, 2009
Both!
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Fluffy Pink Rabbit. (Remember that polyester has feelings, too) Posted Dec 22, 2009
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kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? Posted Dec 23, 2009
I tried that once
It didn't end well
*Rembers the Emergencey services*
We must never speak of it again
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Lady Pennywhistle - Back with a vengeance! [for a certain, limited value of Vengeance; actual amounts of Vengeance may vary] Posted Feb 12, 2010
*The assistant librarian appears!*
Alright then, who's been bringing food in here? You shouldn't eat in a library you know. It's too messy.
Also, why aren't you sharing?
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kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? Posted Feb 13, 2010
*hides large quantities of Cake and whistles innocently*
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted Feb 13, 2010
A lot of libraries allow food and drinks nowadays. Rarely are their custodians happyh about it, though.
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Lady Pennywhistle - Back with a vengeance! [for a certain, limited value of Vengeance; actual amounts of Vengeance may vary] Posted Feb 13, 2010
Well, I suppose that depends on library, and on the books. If you have old and/or rare books, you probably don't want people handling them with food nearby.
On the other hand, if I were running, say, a library for 'young adults' (teens, tweens, whatever), I would probably make sure there are plenty of greasy snacks next to the 'Twilight' shelf. Maybe some drinks, in unstable containers. Maybe some matches.
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Lady Pennywhistle - Back with a vengeance! [for a certain, limited value of Vengeance; actual amounts of Vengeance may vary] Posted Feb 14, 2010
Well, I _was_ speaking hypothetically, yaknow.
But since she's here... hey, Steph, I got someone to introduce to you! His name's Vlad, and he'd just LOVE to discuss your books with you.
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EvilClaw: The Catmanthing Posted Feb 15, 2010
To be fair, vampire literature has developed in strange and myriad ways over the decades and bears little resemblence to the original folk tales. To be unfair, I hate the Twilight books and all they represent.
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Lady Pennywhistle - Back with a vengeance! [for a certain, limited value of Vengeance; actual amounts of Vengeance may vary] Posted Feb 16, 2010
Disclaimer: I have never attempted to actually read the books, and I get all my knowledge of them from places like this excellent (although apparently terminally hiatused, now) blog: http://vampirely.wordpress.com/
Honestly, I think it's good enough. I never would have read the books anyway; I'm just not the target audience, and nothing about them seems appealing to me.
That being cleared: I think the problem with Meyer's books isn't whether she adhers to some 'canon' of vampire lore. The spakling thing is easy to make fun of, because it's the most obvious symptom, so to speak, but it's not the real problem.
The problem is that from all I've seen, she's recreated vampires as a bunch of creatures that are absolutely perfect, and therefore uninteresting. They have no faults. They're immortal, stronger, smarter, faster and more beautiful (except some of the bad vampires, that are just regular-looking) than humans, have all sorts of mental superpowers, and can't be harmed by pretty much anything (except other vampires, I think). In addition, any possible moral dilemmas are rendered pointless by the fact they don't really have to drink human blood if they don't really want to; they have some sort of 'urge' but they seem to overcome it quite easily. They don't even have fangs. Nothing that could possibly be unseemly. And yes, sunlight doesn't hurt them, it makes them sparkle. And while the sparkling in itself is stupid, like I said - it's just the most ridiculous symptom. Her vampires are just completely uninteresting.
Nowdd to that the general vapidness of a teen love story, the bad writing (from what I've seen elsewhere, as explained above), and the dangerously revisionist messages (read this, for example: http://vampirely.wordpress.com/2009/05/10/extra-credit-the-twilight-saga-and-domestic-abuse/ ), plus the insane hype/worship that developed around the books, and you can see why I hate the whole thing so much.
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- 1501: kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? (Dec 17, 2009)
- 1502: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Dec 17, 2009)
- 1503: Fluffy Pink Rabbit. (Remember that polyester has feelings, too) (Dec 22, 2009)
- 1504: kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? (Dec 23, 2009)
- 1505: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Dec 23, 2009)
- 1506: Lady Pennywhistle - Back with a vengeance! [for a certain, limited value of Vengeance; actual amounts of Vengeance may vary] (Feb 12, 2010)
- 1507: kipperonthefloor - Make sense? What fun is there in Making sense? (Feb 13, 2010)
- 1508: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Feb 13, 2010)
- 1509: Lady Pennywhistle - Back with a vengeance! [for a certain, limited value of Vengeance; actual amounts of Vengeance may vary] (Feb 13, 2010)
- 1510: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Feb 13, 2010)
- 1511: Lady Pennywhistle - Back with a vengeance! [for a certain, limited value of Vengeance; actual amounts of Vengeance may vary] (Feb 14, 2010)
- 1512: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Feb 14, 2010)
- 1513: EvilClaw: The Catmanthing (Feb 15, 2010)
- 1514: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (Feb 16, 2010)
- 1515: Lady Pennywhistle - Back with a vengeance! [for a certain, limited value of Vengeance; actual amounts of Vengeance may vary] (Feb 16, 2010)
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