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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 10, 2015
Cool old Guy defining random actions
"Just tried to hide an entry (only change as a kind of test)
The Random generator we call Captcha pops up 'one more thing' "
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted May 10, 2015
What exactly did you do? I have no idea how to 'hide an Entry'. And when you undo it, does the captcha keep coming or does it stop?
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 10, 2015
Cool old Guy running in all skins
"Hide is the radiobutton in Pliny, does the same as the [delete] button in DNA/Riply skins it changes the status of the entry to MA ?type=3.
The effect is you hide the entry from public view (Something did in the early days)
Next project is born: write a user manual for Pliny . "
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 13, 2015
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted May 13, 2015
Hide and delete are not the same. If you delete something in Ripley it is still visible in Pliny although it won't show up in searches.
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 14, 2015
Cool old Guy step by step finding Pliny
", concidered it similar in name and to be in function.
Nothing about the Captcha . . .
Is there more HowTo Pliny? "
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted May 14, 2015
It's full of bugs, but we've been specifically told that we are not to report them unless they are security bugs.
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 14, 2015
Cool old Guy still trying to define the actual 'hide' button
" I am not talking about the 'features' as we always have named some more uncomfortable skin issues. I am referring to the brilliant side (Bookmarking, Subscription features, . . . ).
Apparently no more Captcha issues, anyone? "
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 14, 2015
Cool old Guy on DebIan
"Apparently the Captcha is not slain, I got Caught trying to update an Update.
Had been using the XP to start the Entry, needed some external information. Using the DebIan system to collect it pasted it and got Captcha (image not even visible, probably locally blocked).
Anyway, the random Captcha is still active."
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted May 14, 2015
COG, if the captcha image is not displayed, that's a different problem.
I've managed to update a large entry A87851596 which the Captcha refused to accept before. So it certainly seems to be working for me now.
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 14, 2015
Cool old Guy reading, writing and soldering
"I have seen it, indeed a very BIG entry. Perhaps even big enough for several entries . . .
I do not care about the image (anymore) after the first few attempts to decipher it and beeing presented with a new entry I stopped trying to pass the humanity test.
I just hit backpage and store local (if possible).
It will be a local addblocker of some strange kind hiding the image, no big deal and (probably) nothing to do with the Captcha. It was the first Captcha on the DebIan, hence I did not came accross it before. "
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 14, 2015
Cool old Guy also followig the given link
"Hmm, that is not big, I thought you were talking about < A87853747 >
"
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Gnomon - time to move on Posted May 14, 2015
But if the captcha is working correctly, it will occasionally ask for a code and will accept it, saving your entry.
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted May 14, 2015
"I've managed to update a large entry A87851596 which the Captcha refused to accept before. So it certainly seems to be working for me now." [Gnomon]
That is really good news!
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Bluebottle Posted May 15, 2015
Captcha definitely isn't slain. Last weekend I completed an article and all I've had to do is copy/paste it from Word into an entry and click 'update', and then it can go into Peer Review. Will Captcha let me?
<BB<
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted May 15, 2015
I'm afraid we have to be patient. I sent my 'report' to Brian (a few notes about the experiments I made) and I hope they are helpful in some way. I know he is working on it, but as far as I understand the CAPTCHA is not our own but belongs to cloudflare. I think that is also the reason why nobody really knows what it does when. It's not h2g2 code. It seems to be very difficult to do things about it. But as I said, I know for sure Brian is working on it.
I can only tell you everyone is equally annoyed by the CAPTCHA.
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 15, 2015
Cool old Guy on a cap
"I kind of agree with Gnomon as a single hit should not be concidered as a flaw.
Captcha . . . pondering . . . catchyou . . . "
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Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! Posted May 15, 2015
Cool old Guy shifting gear
"Got a Captcha three times on saving a new entry (tiny plaintext) from DebIan, just ignored it (close page) reload NewEntry into another skin, was down to classic then it saved. Total time less then five minutes.
The trigger is still random, the effect is less annoying, at least less persistent. Will concider this 'normal' behaviour for the Captcha. "
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paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant Posted May 16, 2015
Let's think about this a moment. We should be known quantities. Many of us have been posting from the same computers at the same locations for years, if not decades. Why doesn't Captcha trust us to be who we say we are?
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Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor Posted May 16, 2015
Well, normally (at least where I live) your IP changes whenever you re-connect to the Internet. Unless you pay some extra money for a static IP. I know for instance, that my own connection goes through one of about five main servers of my provider which are in my relative vicinity. Every time it's a different server of these few. And I get different IPs.
(I learned that through the security system of Guild Wars 2, which gives you a warning if a server logs in from a new location because its afraid someone tries to steal your account)
So, it's difficult for any prorgam to do what you say.
And I also suspect that the CAPTCHA is not meant to check your location at all. It just does what it does. But that's just my guess. To me it seems whoever programmed it didn't put much thought in the whole thing at all.
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- 61: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 10, 2015)
- 62: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (May 10, 2015)
- 63: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 10, 2015)
- 64: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 13, 2015)
- 65: Gnomon - time to move on (May 13, 2015)
- 66: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 14, 2015)
- 67: Gnomon - time to move on (May 14, 2015)
- 68: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 14, 2015)
- 69: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 14, 2015)
- 70: Gnomon - time to move on (May 14, 2015)
- 71: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 14, 2015)
- 72: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 14, 2015)
- 73: Gnomon - time to move on (May 14, 2015)
- 74: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (May 14, 2015)
- 75: Bluebottle (May 15, 2015)
- 76: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (May 15, 2015)
- 77: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 15, 2015)
- 78: Cool Old Guy (ex-SockPuppet) Trying not to post for the next 200 days ! (May 15, 2015)
- 79: paulh, vaccinated against the Omigod Variant (May 16, 2015)
- 80: Tavaron da Quirm - Arts Editor (May 16, 2015)
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